Spoke with a guy who has a collector's edition 300 Win Mag for $3k.

Not knowing values for these, is that a fair price?
What's the difference between it and a 300 H&H?

Not sure what he means by "collector edition". The 300 H&H was the standard 30 Magnum for Winchester. I believe the 300 Win Mag was only made in 1963 (as a pre-64). Is it a Supergrade? It would have a black forend tip and say Super Grade on the floorplate. If it's the regular Model 70, perhaps a 1963 300 Win Mag in NIB condition might be worth that, but seems a bit high for a used one in good shape.

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Originally posted by lde:
Spoke with a guy who has a collector's edition 300 Win Mag for $3k.

Not knowing values for these, is that a fair price?
What's the difference between it and a 300 H&H?

The Wincester version is the H&H case shortened to fit in the '-06, 270 Win. length magazines, then blown out and bullets seated deeper, if I remember correctly. Case capacity and velocity is a little higher than the H&H. Today, the Winny version is more popular, but I'll take the old H&H version any day. I've tried several Winny versions and haven't liked any of them. Many will say the opposite. I'll guarentee you one thing the H&H will feed a heck of a lot smoother.

The seller did say it was part of a collector's estate and it was in just about as perfect condition as you could find.
He also said they only made them for one year. He didn't mention anything about Supergrade.
He also said that the Win's had better long range ability than the H&H. Not that it matters.
I was just looking at it from a collector's view and odds of finding one in pristine condition.

BTW - thanks for ya'lls input.

IMO it's not worth the $3K.....even if it is a supergrade!

I have a 1951 300 H&H that will shoot into 1/2 in. all day long with Federal Safari 180gr. Noslers. I haven't even bothered with trying to work up a handload. I know a gentleman that has a 300 WM as you describe that is his go to rifle, one gun, etc. and shoots it on everything. I don't think your friends rifle is work 3k but it was only made one year as mentioned above and is pretty desirable. I'll keep my H&H though.

In the mid to late 1980's Winchester made a special anniversary edition Model 70 in 300 Win Mag. They were engraved and had very nice wood. They cost a bundle back then, if this is one of those, it is probably worth close to that figure.

I would ask for the serial number and find out what year it was made.

I wouldn't take a 1963 Win 70 as a gift, the machines were worn out at the factory.

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Originally posted by Jim in MI:
I would ask for the serial number and find out what year it was made.

I wouldn't take a 1963 Win 70 as a gift, the machines were worn out at the factory.

You're right. It would be best to send them all to me.

My Pre-64 Model 70 throws 180gr. factory federal TBBC's and barnes tsx's into 3/4" groups at 100. Load development indicates I can get 1/2" groups with partitions.

The A-Bolt I gave to my dad in 300WM cloverleafs 150 gr. partitions at 100 yards. (which is all he really cares to shoot)

Honestly, flip a coin. With modern powders you can pretty much duplicate performance...not that it really matters. A 180gr. bullet at 2900 fps = dead critters.

Nice to hear people standing up for the 300 H&H. Seems like a lot of people look at the caliber as a maxes-out 3006 or the weak older brother of the 300 WM.