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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I personally don't get all this talk about recoil. Especially all the people who say a 270 kicks etc.
Maybe it is because I was turkey hunting with a 870, 12 gauge using 3 inch turkey loads before I was a teenager.

Over the years i've only shot about 3 or 4, 270's. Two Mod 700's and a Tang Saftey Mod 77 with red recoil pad. I've always heard all this talk about how hard kicking a 270 is and to get a 7mm-08 because they have less recoil bla bla bla. Personally I think a 270 in a normal weight rifle has very little recoil.
I never really liked a 270 which I guess was just more repeating things I had heard about the cartridge than actual experience with it and I guess helping when I was a kid helping track a deer that a friend had shot and we never found it till sometime later when there wasn't much left but bones. I realize that was more poor shot placement than the cartridge.
I would like to make it a point to personally hunt with a 270 so that maybe I can get rid of the bad taste in my mouth I have toward the cartridge

The first time I ever shot a 300 Win Mag I was probably 13 or 14 at the time. I was expecting a fast kick which the 300's do have but to me it just wasn't that bad.

I deer hunted a few times with a 338WM just because I wanted to hunt with it. The 338 has a little kick to it but I didn't think it was that bad either. No problem at all keep it under an inch at 100 yards. The deer I killed with it at about 150 yards I think was dead before it hit the ground. I assume it would be just as effective on an elk.

I've had a 7mag or two and I don't think they kick much. Had a Marlin Lever action in 45-70 didn't think it was that bad. Perosnally I think they are all pussycats compared to the percieved recoil of the 300 Ultra Mag I had but it was that sharp fast kind of recoil instead of a hard shove. But even it wasn't that bad. I wouldn't want to shoot 40 rounds a day through one just for the heck of it, but I would have no issues shooting it reguarly enough to stay proficent with one.

I know that 338WM in a light rifle will probably knock the snot out of you and im sure a 270 in a very light rifle or one that doesn't fit you well etc will have some recoil to it. I know if you have a bad shoulder you probably wouldnt want to shoot a light 338wm regularly either.
For the likes of me I don't see how a healthy grown man that has shooting experience would think a 270 or 7mag in a normal weight rifle has a lot of recoil?

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Originally posted by cobra:

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I personally don't get all this talk about recoil. Especially all the people who say a 270 kicks etc.
Maybe it is because I was turkey hunting with a 870, 12 gauge using 3 inch turkey loads before I was a teenager.

Over the years i've only shot about 3 or 4, 270's. Two Mod 700's and a Tang Saftey Mod 77 with red recoil pad. I've always heard all this talk about how hard kicking a 270 is and to get a 7mm-08 because they have less recoil bla bla bla. Personally I think a 270 in a normal weight rifle has very little recoil.
I never really liked a 270 which I guess was just more repeating things I had heard about the cartridge than actual experience with it and I guess helping when I was a kid helping track a deer that a friend had shot and we never found it till sometime later when there wasn't much left but bones. I realize that was more poor shot placement than the cartridge.
I would like to make it a point to personally hunt with a 270 so that maybe I can get rid of the bad taste in my mouth I have toward the cartridge

The first time I ever shot a 300 Win Mag I was probably 13 or 14 at the time. I was expecting a fast kick which the 300's do have but to me it just wasn't that bad.

I deer hunted a few times with a 338WM just because I wanted to hunt with it. The 338 has a little kick to it but I didn't think it was that bad either. No problem at all keep it under an inch at 100 yards. The deer I killed with it at about 150 yards I think was dead before it hit the ground. I assume it would be just as effective on an elk.

I've had a 7mag or two and I don't think they kick much. Had a Marlin Lever action in 45-70 didn't think it was that bad. Perosnally I think they are all pussycats compared to the percieved recoil of the 300 Ultra Mag I had but it was that sharp fast kind of recoil instead of a hard shove. But even it wasn't that bad. I wouldn't want to shoot 40 rounds a day through one just for the heck of it, but I would have no issues shooting it reguarly enough to stay proficent with one.

I know that 338WM in a light rifle will probably knock the snot out of you and im sure a 270 in a very light rifle or one that doesn't fit you well etc will have some recoil to it. I know if you have a bad shoulder you probably wouldnt want to shoot a light 338wm regularly either.
For the likes of me I don't see how a healthy grown man that has shooting experience would think a 270 or 7mag in a normal weight rifle has a lot of recoil?

You just answered your own question, a lot of shooters don't have your experience. Some are restricted by work commitments, money or any number of reasons. Shooting isn't supposed to be a macho sport to see who can stand the most recoil.

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Originally posted by Luckyducker:
Jarrod, I also had the mind set of not really having thing against the 270win but not really liking them either, then I bought one and the rifle was a POS. I found the cartridge intriguing enough that I later bought another rifle in 270 and sold it because I wanted a better one, so I bought a Savage 111 with Boyd's laminated stock and Timney trigger. Even now I find myself wanting to custom barrel an old tang safety Ruger M77 to 270win. So far with the Savage in 270 that I have now I have shot three deer and a coyote and they never moved after the shot. The yote was running at about 350 yds and the bullet went through both shoulders but he required another shot to finish him. You should try one for yourself and I think you will find it very suitable for most medium game. BTW, I don't think the 270 kicks much either.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
OK roger

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I personally don't get all this talk about recoil. Especially all the people who say a 270 kicks etc.
Maybe it is because I was turkey hunting with a 870, 12 gauge using 3 inch turkey loads before I was a teenager.

Over the years i've only shot about 3 or 4, 270's. Two Mod 700's and a Tang Saftey Mod 77 with red recoil pad. I've always heard all this talk about how hard kicking a 270 is and to get a 7mm-08 because they have less recoil bla bla bla. Personally I think a 270 in a normal weight rifle has very little recoil.
I never really liked a 270 which I guess was just more repeating things I had heard about the cartridge than actual experience with it and I guess helping when I was a kid helping track a deer that a friend had shot and we never found it till sometime later when there wasn't much left but bones. I realize that was more poor shot placement than the cartridge.
I would like to make it a point to personally hunt with a 270 so that maybe I can get rid of the bad taste in my mouth I have toward the cartridge

The first time I ever shot a 300 Win Mag I was probably 13 or 14 at the time. I was expecting a fast kick which the 300's do have but to me it just wasn't that bad.

I deer hunted a few times with a 338WM just because I wanted to hunt with it. The 338 has a little kick to it but I didn't think it was that bad either. No problem at all keep it under an inch at 100 yards. The deer I killed with it at about 150 yards I think was dead before it hit the ground. I assume it would be just as effective on an elk.

I've had a 7mag or two and I don't think they kick much. Had a Marlin Lever action in 45-70 didn't think it was that bad. Perosnally I think they are all pussycats compared to the percieved recoil of the 300 Ultra Mag I had but it was that sharp fast kind of recoil instead of a hard shove. But even it wasn't that bad. I wouldn't want to shoot 40 rounds a day through one just for the heck of it, but I would have no issues shooting it reguarly enough to stay proficent with one.

I know that 338WM in a light rifle will probably knock the snot out of you and im sure a 270 in a very light rifle or one that doesn't fit you well etc will have some recoil to it. I know if you have a bad shoulder you probably wouldnt want to shoot a light 338wm regularly either.
For the likes of me I don't see how a healthy grown man that has shooting experience would think a 270 or 7mag in a normal weight rifle has a lot of recoil?

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I'm firmly convinced that exposure to recoil with the proper mindset determines a person's recoil tolerance. I'm not talking about a macho attitude at all. What I'm speaking of is this, if you head out to the range with the idea firmly planted in your mind that the rifle is going to kick like hell, that is certainly the way you're going to perceive it!

I try to set it in my mind that the gun is going to kick whether I squeeze the trigger or jerk it. Doesn't matter. It's going to kick the same so I might as well go through the motions correctly. Squeeze don't jerk. Tell yourself that the gun really doesn't kick that bad and pretty soon, you'll realize that it really doesn't.

Convince yourself mentally that a 270 Win is going to punish you and it will. Convince yourself that a 577NE isn't going to punish you and it wont. Simply a matter of exposure with the right mindset.

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I personally don't get all this talk about recoil. Especially all the people who say a 270 kicks etc.
Maybe it is because I was turkey hunting with a 870, 12 gauge using 3 inch turkey loads before I was a teenager.

Over the years i've only shot about 3 or 4, 270's. Two Mod 700's and a Tang Saftey Mod 77 with red recoil pad. I've always heard all this talk about how hard kicking a 270 is and to get a 7mm-08 because they have less recoil bla bla bla. Personally I think a 270 in a normal weight rifle has very little recoil.
I never really liked a 270 which I guess was just more repeating things I had heard about the cartridge than actual experience with it and I guess helping when I was a kid helping track a deer that a friend had shot and we never found it till sometime later when there wasn't much left but bones. I realize that was more poor shot placement than the cartridge.
I would like to make it a point to personally hunt with a 270 so that maybe I can get rid of the bad taste in my mouth I have toward the cartridge

The first time I ever shot a 300 Win Mag I was probably 13 or 14 at the time. I was expecting a fast kick which the 300's do have but to me it just wasn't that bad.

I deer hunted a few times with a 338WM just because I wanted to hunt with it. The 338 has a little kick to it but I didn't think it was that bad either. No problem at all keep it under an inch at 100 yards. The deer I killed with it at about 150 yards I think was dead before it hit the ground. I assume it would be just as effective on an elk.

I've had a 7mag or two and I don't think they kick much. Had a Marlin Lever action in 45-70 didn't think it was that bad. Perosnally I think they are all pussycats compared to the percieved recoil of the 300 Ultra Mag I had but it was that sharp fast kind of recoil instead of a hard shove. But even it wasn't that bad. I wouldn't want to shoot 40 rounds a day through one just for the heck of it, but I would have no issues shooting it reguarly enough to stay proficent with one.

I know that 338WM in a light rifle will probably knock the snot out of you and im sure a 270 in a very light rifle or one that doesn't fit you well etc will have some recoil to it. I know if you have a bad shoulder you probably wouldnt want to shoot a light 338wm regularly either.
For the likes of me I don't see how a healthy grown man that has shooting experience would think a 270 or 7mag in a normal weight rifle has a lot of recoil?

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I personally don't get all this talk about recoil. Especially all the people who say a 270 kicks etc.
Maybe it is because I was turkey hunting with a 870, 12 gauge using 3 inch turkey loads before I was a teenager.

Over the years i've only shot about 3 or 4, 270's. Two Mod 700's and a Tang Saftey Mod 77 with red recoil pad. I've always heard all this talk about how hard kicking a 270 is and to get a 7mm-08 because they have less recoil bla bla bla. Personally I think a 270 in a normal weight rifle has very little recoil.
I never really liked a 270 which I guess was just more repeating things I had heard about the cartridge than actual experience with it and I guess helping when I was a kid helping track a deer that a friend had shot and we never found it till sometime later when there wasn't much left but bones. I realize that was more poor shot placement than the cartridge.
I would like to make it a point to personally hunt with a 270 so that maybe I can get rid of the bad taste in my mouth I have toward the cartridge

The first time I ever shot a 300 Win Mag I was probably 13 or 14 at the time. I was expecting a fast kick which the 300's do have but to me it just wasn't that bad.

I deer hunted a few times with a 338WM just because I wanted to hunt with it. The 338 has a little kick to it but I didn't think it was that bad either. No problem at all keep it under an inch at 100 yards. The deer I killed with it at about 150 yards I think was dead before it hit the ground. I assume it would be just as effective on an elk.

I've had a 7mag or two and I don't think they kick much. Had a Marlin Lever action in 45-70 didn't think it was that bad. Perosnally I think they are all pussycats compared to the percieved recoil of the 300 Ultra Mag I had but it was that sharp fast kind of recoil instead of a hard shove. But even it wasn't that bad. I wouldn't want to shoot 40 rounds a day through one just for the heck of it, but I would have no issues shooting it reguarly enough to stay proficent with one.

I know that 338WM in a light rifle will probably knock the snot out of you and im sure a 270 in a very light rifle or one that doesn't fit you well etc will have some recoil to it. I know if you have a bad shoulder you probably wouldnt want to shoot a light 338wm regularly either.
For the likes of me I don't see how a healthy grown man that has shooting experience would think a 270 or 7mag in a normal weight rifle has a lot of recoil?

I don't know who you're talking to or hanging out with, but they must be a bunch of whimps or 4th graders.

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
So...was this a post just to prove how macho and manly you are? I mean, really, what was the point? Recoil, pain, taste, smell, art, music...its all relative to each individual. Why do some like coffee damn near boiling hot and others need a few ice cubes to drink it? Why do some like the bite and dryness of a heavy red wine while others stick to sweet whites? Why do some call for the hottest of hot sauce on everything they eat while others get heartburn just looking at black pepper? Its individual perception.

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
So...was this a post just to prove how macho and manly you are? I mean, really, what was the point? Recoil, pain, taste, smell, art, music...its all relative to each individual. Why do some like coffee damn near boiling hot and others need a few ice cubes to drink it? Why do some like the bite and dryness of a heavy red wine while others stick to sweet whites? Why do some call for the hottest of hot sauce on everything they eat while others get heartburn just looking at black pepper? Its individual perception.

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
I don't know who you're talking to or hanging out with, but they must be a bunch of whimps or 4th graders.

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Originally posted by BigNate:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr. Lou:


P.S. I have a Model 600 in .308 that nobody at my house likes to shoot. I was truly surprised at it's recoil with 150's I had loaded for my wife.

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My original post had nothing to do with being macho or any of that. That is exactly the opposite of my point.
I guess in a nustshell a lot of people think a rifle kicks more than it actually does rather its because they don't wear earplugs and they flinch from the muzzle blast, or they are afraid the scope is going to hit them, or they have always been told that those dang ole 270's or 30-06's, or 7Mags or whatever will knock the snot out of ya. So they shoot one and automatically flinch because they are expecting to get whacked when they squeeze the trigger.
But it had nothing to do with being macho.

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Originally posted by Brad:

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My original post had nothing to do with being macho or any of that. That is exactly the opposite of my point.
I guess in a nustshell a lot of people think a rifle kicks more than it actually does rather its because they don't wear earplugs and they flinch from the muzzle blast, or they are afraid the scope is going to hit them, or they have always been told that those dang ole 270's or 30-06's, or 7Mags or whatever will knock the snot out of ya. So they shoot one and automatically flinch because they are expecting to get whacked when they squeeze the trigger.
But it had nothing to do with being macho.

How old are you?