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In my loooong search for a stainless steel rifle I've pretty much decided to skip the cost and time it takes to have a custom built. My goal in the begining was to go hunting and not spend all my money on a rifle. I'd sort of lost sight of that. So in a .280 Remington that leaves me with 3 choices. A Remington 700 SS DM. On the plus side I like the, 24" barrel, and the stock. On the down side. I've heard of feeding problems with this model and then theres the fact that its a Remington rifle. A Browning Stainless stalker. I sort of like the way it looks, but I've never owned a Browning, plus its light weight. Down side, 22" barrel, both the Browning I've shot had a 9 pound trigger, I'm not crazy about the DM but I do like it better than the 700 DM and I guess I would have to say the same about the safety. I guess I could like with the stock but it wouldn't be my first choice. A Ruger. The up side, cost, CRF, the safety and I've owned 2 that were shooters. Down side, 22" barrel, trigger, stock, finish....... I guess I'm really not looking to buy a Ruger. So whats your thoughts? | ||
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Mark, of the choices you mention I would go with the Ruger and never look back. If you're open to new options my recommendation would be the Savage 116FSS. I am not entirely sure if they chamber for .280 though. | |||
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quote:I have a .280 in a M700 Mountain Rifle (DM) and have had absolutly no feeding problems. Even with the 22" barrel it does 3100fps with Hornady LM 139gr SST. I have fired exactly 7 rounds @ game with the following result. [LIST] Certainly nothing wrong with that "Remington", although I too am fond of CRF rifles (preferably M-98 Mausers) The only thing I have done to it was to shave a little wood (yes it has a WOOD stock ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} )from the right side of the barrel channel @ the front pressure point and install a Miller trigger return spring and adjusted the trigger to 3#s. The trigger was pretty rough, but a little TLC took care of it. | |||
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A-bolt stainless stalker. Thr trigger is adjustable, and the DM is hidden in the floorplate which makes it acceptable for me whereas the DM on the Remington is a true DM that I just don't care for. Personal preference. | |||
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wildcat junkie, From: Northern New York, WAY NORTH Come on now WJ, come on up here near the territories, now THAT'S north. LOL ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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Mark, One other line you might want to consider is weatherby. They have a lot of models in .280 with synthetic stock and stainless. Most have 24 in barrels. A bit pricier. Some hate'em others love'em. Worth looking at if you have not already considered them. | |||
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Burro, you're right. I forgot about Weatherby. Of all the ones discussed here so far they would probably be the best choice as they are more likely to have 24" barrels in a standard calibre than anyone else. And they are a superb rifle. | |||
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Savage, Only problem with them is the price. I have seen some seconds floating around recently on-line and in some shops at good prices. Called Weatherby to see what's up and they said they clear out their stock of "blemished" production every now and then. It has to be just a cosmetic flaw or they don't release them. Factory warranty is still good. I had a hard time figuring out what was wrong with two I saw in a shop. Some slight marks on the synthetic stock and the sling stud hole was not oriented right. Nothing that could not have happened on the first trip to the field! | |||
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I am very, very happy with my Ruger. The new-style factory stock really isn't bad though the comb is a bit low for my tastes. (Probably a compromise to make it work with iron-sighted rifles.) If you hate the stock you can spend $65 for a Boyd's laminate like I did:  | |||
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I likw the Win. M70 FW, but it's not SS. So my next choice would be the Ruger. I bought my son one in .30-06. After replacing the trigger, it is a very good shooter. Later on, he may opt for a custom stock as the stock is a bit plain & no checkering. I wish Rem. would bring back their old M700 mountain rifle. I am NOT a big fan of DM. Good choice on the caliber BTW. I am shooting mine more every month & can't wait for Montana this fall. [ 05-14-2003, 06:36: Message edited by: fredj338 ] | |||
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Burropacker, I've looked at the Weatherby. I love the SBGM, all but the price, the shape of the stock and did I say the price? Speaking of price the Stainless Steel model is over $800 and then theres that hump back stock thing. If I bought a Weatherby I'd want to replace the stock which adds even more to the cost and even though I've owned a few Weatherbys in the past, that sort of rules them out. John, My thoughts on the Ruger stock as well. Nice looking rig BTW. | |||
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I love my Weatherby Sporter, including the stock. It facilitates absolutely perfect alignment between Leupold and eye with medium Talley rings and weighs 6 lbs. Sweetest bolt rifle I have ever owned, and it's available in 280 in blued, matte, and stainless models, wood and synthetic. The Sporter model is under $1000. Paid $700 for mine second hand. Shoots under MOA. Did I mention that I love my Weatherby sporter? ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif){kind=icon} Live well | |||
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quote:I have a 280 in Ruger#1 on my wish list. That would solve your barrel length issue. Comes with a 26" tube. | |||
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quote:Thanks for the compliment. I'm really quite fond of it. Shoots into an inch with several loads, never changes POI, and always feeds perfectly. Only other work I put in was a Timney trigger and lapped the scope rings. (I bought Ruger's lowest set from Brownell's, kept the ones that came with the rifle to mount a spare scope.) John | |||
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I would also consider a Tikka. | |||
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Mark, Ruger Browning Remington Winchester Weatherby Sako Tikka Dakota New Ultra Light Arms Mountain Eagle Light (Magnum Reascearch) Harris Gunworks Talon Beretta Mato No particular order. Some are semi-custom. They all make 280's, some stainless, some not. Regards, Bob | |||
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quote:Boilerroom, I really like my Ruger #1-B in .280Remington. I used to shoot a Browning A-bolt stainless stalker in 7mmRemMag. and liked it too. I find I don't need the noise, recoil, and other theatrics to kill antelope, mule deer, and elk. Then again, I like my #1 in .338WinMag. with the noise, recoil, and theatrics. Huh, weird cause it's the same with the .411/.416RemMag. too. Uh, BR? what were we talking about? ![[Confused]](images/icons/confused.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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Mark, to Shadows list I would like to add Ed Brown 702, McBros and High tech rifles / JOHAN | ||
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Mark, the 280 is also one of my pet calibers. If you can find one in a Sako AV you will have a real treasure. I have an AV Fiberclass model and love it, though I have not used it much. For my type of hunting I have been primarily using my 358 winnie. | |||
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Mark, The Rem 700 LSS (laminated, stainless) Mt. Rifle comes with a hinged floor plate rather than the DM offered on the other mt. rifles. It does not suffer from the feeding difficulties that some of the DM rifles do. | |||
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John, Did they make that model in .280? I played with a friends A-bolt this weekend. I think I could learn to like it, maybe. If not I'll sell it. But the cheap stocks got too go. Maybe an HS Precision in Desert camo. | |||
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John Fraser Good Looking Ruger - nice photo too - can tell you dable in photography | |||
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By the way - where did you get the Boyd's stock from? There web site doesn't repond worth a hoot -curious if they make one for older Ruger 77 with tang safety. Thanks | |||
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The 280 Rem is one of my favorite cartridges for general hunting in North America, and is perfect for plains game in Africa. However, if I were going to buy a PUSH FEED rifle, which is doubtful, I would most likely buy the Weatherby, careful Brian, don't have a heart attack, because I reccomend a WBY rifle! I'd dump the stock, maybe make hand gun grips out of it, and put on a quality synthetic. However I'd much rather have the Ruger 77, CRF, with iron sights, and scope! OR, a good 98 Mauser action with a timmney trigger, and a nice barrel of medium weight, in a good synthethetic stock, and a modified safety for scope use, with iron sights fitted! The cost would be about the same as that of the 700 Rem, and is a far superior system than any push feed rifle on the market! ![[Cool]](images/icons/cool.gif){kind=icon} [ 05-22-2003, 17:09: Message edited by: MacD37 ] | |||
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I have the Rem BDL SS and it sure shoots good,If you are going to get one of those you might have to shop around,I had one on order for 3 months then they tell me Rem discontinued the 280 in that madel,but I found one in a gun shop that had one in stock. Have several Rem with DM and so far haven't had a problem with them. | |||
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quote:Thanks, I hate to admit that my only photographic training was in high school art class, and after my camera was stolen in a burglary while I was away at college, I never even owned one (other than disposables) for another 15 years! So consider it a tribute to the mighty Canon S45 and a little time with the editing software. I got the stock direct from Boyd's at www.boydboys.com -- bought it unfinished, rasped off the cheekpiece, hollowed the buttstock, and took 1.25" off the forend tip, then finished with General Finishes products (clear Sealacell stain/sealer and satin Arm-R-Seal top coat). Only thing I would do really differently is sand to a finer grit, General Finishes says 300 grit (I think) and that left some scratches. I don't know if they make them for tang safety 77s, though. John | |||
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I would seriously consider a Sako in 280, preferably an AV Hunter; however a 75 will work just fine. You won't regret it.... | |||
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