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Savage 99:

Thanks for the info. That does sound like an improvement over the standard round. Maybe that is what I should have chambered for.

knobmtn

i'm thinking this is going to be my next rifle built (after i pay off my 7-08 thats being built)anyone have any experience with this round? would like input good,bad or ugly... thanks

Christmas was celebrated here on Sept. 3 this year.

I shot my new winchester (24" barrel). Factory loads 150 Powerpoints

averaged about 3025 - 6 shots, 2995-3075. Well off of the over 3100 as advertised by winchester but better than my 30-06.

I did have one built. It's on a Ruger No 1, with a 26 inch PacNor stainless super-match barrel. Pushing the 130 Nosler BT with 73gr of Reloder 25, I get groups less than 1/2 inch.
A friend is waiting for his Kimber in 270WSM; it was supposed to be here last Christmas.

The 270 WSM is probably the only new short mag that really has a true advantage. Its inbetween the 270 win and the 270 Wby Mag. The 300 and 7mm WSMs dont really have too many advantages over the 300 Winnie and the 7mm RM besides, alittle better efficiency and they are available in a short action. There is about as many advantages as disadvantages for the 300 and the 7mm WSMs but, the 270 WSM is in a class of its own.

Now, If we could just get them to come out w/ a .257 WSM(Not that WSSM crap, its just like a 25-06). That would be a real seller.

Good Luck!

Reloader

I like the WSM's. The new 270 WSM that I just got weighs less than a typical 270 and shoots the bullets faster. This is an improvement to me.



Beware that having a rifle built for a WSM might result in more cost than hoped for as the cartridge is much wider than others.



One can buy a new Ruger in SS for $495 over the counter. I don't see the sense of having one "built". If you want an upscale WSM the Kimbers come with a fancy stock, pillars etc.



I started pushing some 140 gr bullets with MagPro a ball powder made for the WSM's and the velocity kept going up. I was at 71 grs and called the project off as I settled on a 130 gr load.



The nice old 270 Win will not run with the 270 WSM when you use a case full of that MagPro in it.

After weighing the 270win vs the 270wsm, I ordered a Winchester Stainless in wsm. I want a 8.25 to 8.5 pound rifle for deer and Antelope hunting. I'm going to have it bedded in a High tech stock, put a 3.5-10x40 Leupold on it, in Talley rings, load some 130gr Interbonds for it and GO HUNTING.

I just bought another Weatherby this time in standard 270 Winchester. I believe it can be loaded with 130 grain bullets up to about 3200 FPS. The factory balistics for the 270 WSM are all taken out of a 24 inch barrel, I don't know what it would do in a 22 inch barrel. The reason I decided on the standard 270 was that I could not think of any outstanding reason to pick the 270 WSM for what I do, hunt whitetail deer. The Weatherby synthetic is a 6.5 pound rifle with a 24 inch barrel, no reason for me to go any lighter. The only real good reason I could think of for the standard 270 win. was that God forbid you went somewhere and your ammunition did not make it with your rifle, any Walmart or hardware store has a box of 270 winchester. What does the 270 WSM do that the 270 winchester will not at lower pressure and less money?jimmyp

Savage99:

Have you shot that 270WSM though your Oehler? Are you interested in posting the results if you have?

Thanks,
knobmtn

Hi Guys:

I gotta tell ya that the 270 WSM is my most favorite deer cartridge ever since it was introduced a couple of years ago.

I bought a Winchester Model 70 in SS and composite stock, put a 3X10 Leupold on it and never looked back. It shoots all three FACTORY loads SUB MOA @ 100 yards. The Winchester Ballistic Silver Tips 130 grain are DEADLY on PA whittails, call em boom flops. One shot..boom...flop goes the deer. So far Three Bucks hit with the 270 WSM never took another step.

The Winchester 140 grain Fail Safes shoot even better than the Silvertips.... and the 150 grainers, not even Ballistic Tips, silver box... outshoots them both, almost half inch @ 100 yards..!! This is a bone stock rifle, with a trigger job.

Velocity from my Chrony it was hot 87 degrees... 130 grain ..3460 FPS Avg 6 shots...140 grain...3256 FPS average 4 shots

I just gave the rifle to my gunsmith to put a Boyds browm laminate with custom Ebony forend & pistol grip cap. It will be a matching twin of my semi custom 375 Model 70.

I like this round so much I may buy another rifle chambered for it. Tika has a new SS in 270 WSM and CZ just came out with the model 3.. SS, with walnut stock and fluted barrel. Sako also has the 270 WSM in a composite stock, SS, called the Finlight.

I really, really love the 270 WSM... JMHO..

Regards Jim P.

knobmtn,



The best advice is to get both. Just about the entire forum would agree with that.



If you read above you will see that there is a guy in PA who has one. It would be hell to be sneaking up on a nice buck with a little gun and hear a shot go off. It might be a 270 WSM.

RSY,

To paraphrase GeorgeS "were pathetic"

For what I wanted the 270 Winchester is better for me, I think the 130 grain bullet will do all I need to do. There is no shortage of ready made factory ammunition anywhere you look, also less expensive if you buy it, less recoil, and less muzzle blast, probably longer barrel life. I also have a 30-06 so if I need a heavier bullet for larger game I would just use that. I am happy that Winchester brought out the 270 WSM and I looked at it, but it does not fit what I want or need. What finally decided it for me was a story about a guy that bought a 280 Remington, went on a trip, the rifle arrived but his ammunition did not, the 280 Remington is not an easy cartridge to find either.Jimmyp

That .474 inch group at 200 yards is simply amaizing, especially from a light rifle. I cannot even begin to shoot that good but I tell you what I am most definately going to be giving the Kimber's a real good look next time I buy a rifle. If I lived out west I would have more strongly considered the 270 WSM, but in Georgia 150 yards is a long shot. I can only kill them so dead, and wasting more energy on my shoulder and the ground other side of the deer does not seem prudent for my application. This boils down to what you are going to do with the gun and what your preferences are. I also took a look at some loaded cartridges to help me make my decision, granted someones reloads will be better but this gave me a place to start. From the Federal web site they show a 270 Win with a 150 grain Nosler partition bullet at 2850 FPS muzzle velocity and 2280 FPS at 300 yards, zeroed at +1.7 inches/100 yards it is shown to drop 7.5 inches at 300 yards. The 270 WSM is shown to have a muzzle velocity with the same bullet as 3160, and is still doing 2550 at 300 yds, with a +1.3 inch 100 yard zero it drops 5.9 inches at 300 or 1.6 inches less, if you zero both of them at +2.5-3.0 inches won't they both still deliver bullets to the kill zone at 300? I love discussing this stuff, it is almost as much fun as discussing the French poodle who is by the way a vietnam veteran, and is by the way reporting for duty, and is by the way running for president. But for my Georgia 50-150 yard application this difference and the other reasons I have mentioned this does not justify me buying that particular chambering. Perhaps there would be a WSM in my future as the accuracy looks like an outstanding characteristic, but at this moment the standard 270 Winchester was a better decison for me. Who knows for next year? jimmyp

I have nothing but good things to say about my Model 70 Super Shadow in .270WSM. Very accurate, easy to load for, lightweight, what's not to like? And mine was less than $400 at Walmart last December. Threw aside the disposable Simmons 8 Point scope and awful mounts, replaced them with a Burris Fullfield II 3x9 and some Leupold STD rings and bases and am all set.

The 270WSM is greatness. The 270 Win is an excellent cartridge but the 270 WSM is about 200fps faster with the same bullets in a short action rifle.

My LightWeight Kimber shoots good enough for me to hunt with...........






I've shot numerous 1/2 minute or better groups as have 3 others that have shot this same rifle.

Some will argue that the WSM isn't 200fps faster but they are wrong. If you load both to the same max loads the WSM on average is right at 200FPS faster. I've verified this by shooting 2 WSM's and 3 270 Wins over the same chronograph with bullets from the same box and powder from the same keg.

It's probably hard to go wrong with either but for larger Ungulates I think the extra ooomph might come in handy...........DJ

knobmtn,

I just got the rifle a couple of weeks ago so I have not done much with it. I may have put a hundred shots thru it though. I am sure djpaintles knows way more about the 270 WSM as he has had one or more for a while.

Here is the data from 9-13-04. All two shot groups. Nosler 140 BT 68 gr Magpro 3043 fps 3/4" 100 yds. N. 140 BT 69 MP 3080 fps 1.5" 200 yds. N. 140 BT 70 MP 3138 fps 2" 200 yds. N. 140 BT 71 MP 3194 fps 2" 200 yds.

Hornady 130 gr SST 62 IMR 4350 3219 fps 1" 100 yds. H. 130 SST 63 IMR 4350 3258 fps 1" 200 yds. H. 130 SST 64 IMR 4350 3319 fps 1.5" 200 yds. The 64 gr load was a little hot. The extreme spread for all IMR 4350 loads was 2 fps or less!

I have settled on the 130 gr SST with 63 grs of IMR 4350 and will use that rifle for medium range deer and coyotes.