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Who amongst the active shooters here use a 9.3x62 a great deal? Why? Do you hunt with it or just shoot it? Do you use it in Africa? Much thanks. | ||
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Haven't used it in Africa as I gave up on Africa about 20 years ago. I have shot several feral pigs and cow elk with it. Have two of them. Both have been easy to get accurate loads for. It is an outstanding cartridge. Plenty of power up close and plenty of range. I just took a cow elk at 350 yards. Knowing your trajectory is way more important than the actual trajectory. I can consistently hit a 10" steel target at 430 yards at the range. While the standard bullet weight is 286 grains, I think a 250 grain bullet is a better all around fit. Your distance limitation is going to be more affected by your shooting skills and the minimum impact velocity for the bullet you are shooting. You should be able to launch a 250 grain slug at 2450 fps without a lot of effort and given typical BCs and bullet impact velocity specs ~400 yards will be your max range. Of course, the preceding will vary but I would be surprised if for any 250 grn bullet it was less than 350 and over 425 is probably pushing the bullets designed limits. I usually add a 100 fps onto bullet mfgs impact velocity minimums. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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You will get replies from guys who have killed a lot more than me; I have just shot pigs with them.. But I have built at least a dozen of them, and really like the caliber. And it will go on any action. I even built one on a Mosin action that shoots .5 MOA. All the others on 98 Mausers. Africa, I know nothing about. Not for DG probably. Plus it is a classic caliber that no one else in your group will use, which is important to me. | |||
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Oh, I guess the same reasons as any for someone who likes a particular cartridge / rifle combo. I took to Cape Buffalo cow culling a few seasons ago and use the 9.3x62mm exclusively, handloaded with 300 grain A-Frames. I like the 3 down + 1 in a trim, handy rifle. For walking around field practice in the hills around the shack I've yet to come across a bad handload for bullet weights from 185 gr. to 286 gr. using all manner of powders. But for strolls in the Bushveld in temperatures above 95+ F, I stick to using temperature-insensitive powders. That way, the rounds in the rifle and on my belt don't care. For factory ammo, which I'd only use for practice, both the Geco and PPU are just fine. I'd note there is one or two factory offerings out there touted for DG that just don't measure up when tested with a chronograph. I have 2 additional bullet weights heavier than 300 grains I intend to test in '24 with an eye towards using on buffalo. They have to make sense however before they travel with me across the pond. | |||
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I have put down a few cow elk with mine and it’s always been a hammer. Just about any bullet weight shoots well although I tend to stick with the classic 286 gr bullets. Like the poster above light and trim is the way to go. I have a 9.3x62 barrel for my Sauer 200 and I hunt with tuw 3 round magazine in tuw Gun wich gives me 3+1 and I have a spare 5 rounder in my pocket. Carry’s easy and it’s one of my favorite all around rounds. It is likely headed with me to TZ as my general purpose rifle along with my 470 for DG. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Ive shot most of Africa PG and a number of buffalo and 2 Hippo with it. I used 320 gr Woodleigh's.. 300 gr Swifts. 286 Noslers and 250 Accubonds and some European bullets, all worked well...I don't believe anyone with an ounce of since can tell the difference in the 9,3x62 and the 375 on game..Its simply a wonderful caliber. I would not hesitate to shoot elephant with it if given the chance and a pocket full of handloaded solids.. My choice for a medium has always been between the 9,3x62 and the 338 Win..Never figure out which. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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My 9.3x62 is on an FN commercial action with Krieger barrel. I have used it for 23 years and it has never let me down from Georgia whitetail deer to Canadian moose or African game. The cartridge is not at all sexy; it doesn't have a belt nor is is it short and fat with a 30-degree shoulder. The 9.3x62 along with its contemporaries like the 7x57, 8x57, 6.5x55 and the .30-06 are all well over 100 years old. Their performance has always been admirable. They just work. | |||
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Notwithstanding that I used a 338 WM for most of 40 years, this decade I'm a 9.3×62 man. My reason is mainly that it gives similar or better results at our forest ranges and mine weighs at least a pound less - something I appreciate more in old age. I've only killed two sambar stags and one big pig with mine but have never seen more convincing performances. I use 286gr Woodleigh RNs, 300gr A-frames and pointed 286gr Hornady bullets (in the magazine, because they feed better). Is it good for Africa? Well, that's what it was got up for and it became very popular there for general purposes. Pondoro liked it, as I recall, and even used it for elephants. He was a pro, of course, and some places have calibre limits that begin nine thou bigger for that lurk. | |||
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I like my 9.3 an awful lot on moose around here. | |||
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With 250s it's the equivalent of the 35 Whelen, my favorite cartridge. It's a hammer on game. I've taken eland, warthhog, gemsbok and a frontal shot on a R&W sized wildebeest that dropped at the shot and found the bullet in the rear ham. | |||
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And with 286s it’s even better | |||
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My sole trip to Africa was done with 9.3x62. I shot Eland,Zebra,Wildebeest (black and blue), kudu, sable, impala,and warthog. All were shot with Barnes TTSX 286gr. bullets and the only tracking job was on the black wildebeest due to poor shot placement. Most dropped at the shot, and shots taken were 100-150 yards on average. The only North American game I have taken with it were deer. All DRT. | |||
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I love the 9.3x62 & 9.3x66. Mainly, because the rifles are lighter than my 375 H&Hs, but the ballistics are very similar. My 9.3s weigh about 1-1.5 lbs. lighter than my 375s. The recoil is generally lighter as well. I have used only 286 & 300 gr. bullets on the African game I’ve taken, with mostly SAFs and NPs. My list of African game taken with these two cartridges are: Buffalo (46”) Hippo (2) Giraffe Tsessebe Black Lechwe Kudu Hyena Warthog(3) Jackal Steinbok Impala Porcupine African Wildcat From Hippos to tiny animals, the 9.3s can do it all. The Buffalo was killed with only one 286. gr. NP. It is legal for DG in a number of countries, and accepted in most others where it’s technically not. Game scouts don’t seem concerned about this in general. And it works! I could hunt all animals the rest of my life in Africa with just a 404 Jeffery and a 9.3x62, but I’ve used (11) different cartridges so far. I believe these two cartridges to be my top pick for a 2-rifle battery for Africa to cover everything. I own (1) 9.3x66 and (16) 9.3x62s. Yes, I can conclude that I LOVE the 9.3s. (Oh, and (4) 9.3x74Rs) Will I be able to use them all in Africa? Well, a man’s gotta’ have goals in his life… | |||
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Sure fire, You are an addict…. To the 9.3x62! Do you have a favorite among your “children”? | |||
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Hi dog cat, Guilty as charged! I couldn’t pick just one, but I really love my 9.3x66 that Wayne built, that I took the Buffalo with. Gorgeous and super accurate. Of the ‘62s, I guess it’s a toss up between the AHRs and my Dakota Custom Deluxe with case colored action, floor plate, trigger guard, etc. And as funny as it may sound, those Ruger Africans that Lipsey’s made in a run of 250 were really nice rifles, especially for the money ($1,000). The barrels were very small/thin contours. With the Decelerator pad, rings, and a Leupold 2.5-8 scope added, the rifles weighed 8.1 lbs. | |||
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I liked those Licky Rugers, as well as my pre64 Winchesters, they were better than sliced white bread...Mine was a 9,3x62 today I only have kept my Husky 640 in an original Mauser 9,3x62, trim slim and trim and ready. It killed its share of buffalo.I have always loaded it to max. cuz thats where it shoots sub inch groups, and most bullets to the same impact..fairly beat up or rather used but never abused.. Recoil of the big bores tends to bother me lately, the 9,3x62, 338, and 375 is right at my limit Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I have used a x62 or x74 for 14 animals in africa. on 3 different safaris. | |||
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wildmansix, what are the (14) animals you have taken with your 9.3s? | |||
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Eland Sable Blue Wildebeest Impala Blesbok Waterbuck common diker Klipspringer Kudu Mountain reedbuck Civiet Serval Bushbuck Jackal Gemsbuck and probably one or two I am forgetting | |||
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I have used the 9.3x62 to stop a few brown bears that clients had wounded and it works virtually the same as the 375 Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I liked my 9,3x62 so well I went to the9,3x64, but just picked up 75 to perhaps a 100 fps so trashed that project, then the 9,3x66 and it added some but with it went recoil and blast, and some un-needed velocity. If I need more than a 9,3x62 I will opt for the 416 Rem or 404. the 9,3x62 has been compared to the 35 Whelen but the 9,3x62 handloaded is about like dammit is to cussing! according to Pierre van der Walt and that sums it up, Its 100 to 125 fps short of my 375 Hunting loads.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Same performance as your hunting loads and the animal can’t tell the difference. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Thanks wildmansix! | |||
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Bottom line is the 9.3x62 is the best option on a 30-06 size case, nothing else compares under those conditions...but. personally I would never use 06 brass in a 9.3x62 as 9.3x62 brass is available and not expensive..I use PPU brass, If I were prone to prefer 06 brass I would cut my chamber with a 30-06 reamer and expand the neck to 366...but why? Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I have a Husky and a CZ. Took Husky to Africa 10 years ago. Took it jackrabbit hunting twice last year. I used the Speer 270 grain on the rabbits, some say they are too soft but had no problems. | |||
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I've got a 9.3x62 semi-weight barrel for my Blaser R8. I'll be working up loads for it this summer with both 250gr bullets and the new 215gr CT Raptor ER's. The Raptors are incredibly accurate in my 6X/C, 308 Win, and 357 Rem Max rifles. Funny part of Iowa law, you can shoot any rifle from .35-.50 caliber or straight wall pistol cartridges. So yes, the 35 Whelen, 9.3's and 357H&H are legal deer rifles, along with all kinds of bigger stuff. But not a 243Win or 30/06...so my 9.3x62 will be my new Iowa deer gun. | |||
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