I've seen alot of advertizing for barnes x ammunition and was going to try some but the dealer I burchased my new rifle from warned me off them. He said he's seen barrel ware that is unceptable plus the accuracy is poor. What are the thoughts out there?

The original barnes x bullets were not very accurate in many rifles and copper fouling was extreme.The barnes tsx is a very different bullet from the original barnes x in that they are very accurate in most rifles and copper fouling is no longer an issue.By the way, barrels don't wear out from friction,rather the throat erodes from pressure and temperature.

My brothers 30-06 is fed with Barnes tsx and Nosler Ballistic tips.We reload it to the max for best accuracy in his gun for hunting situations.When we play at the range we use Remington coreloct because it is cheap.Altough we dont shoot Barnes exclusively we havent had any throat or barrel errosion and we shoot a lot ,and by that I mean a lot.As stubblejumper said it is pressure and heat that erodes barrels.We shoot 3 shots and let the barrel cool down while we shoot my Glock or any of the other guns.When you shoot your gun up to the point where where you cant touch it ,then you know that you are eroding your barrel.When you shoot and let it cool down ,clean it properly afterwards I dont see why your gun wont last any longer than you or me for that matter.That is to say that dont shoot a couple thousand rounds out of your rifle on a yearly basis.
Just my 2 cents.
Shoot straight and shoot safe
Johan

One more vote for the TSX bullets - they have worked well for me. In high velocity rounds, or for tough game, they are my first choice, if I can get them to shoot. So far, all the rifles in which I have tried them have reacted with good, "hunting" type accuracy, and I have stopped development at that point.

- mike

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Originally posted by bc300winguy:
I've seen alot of advertizing for barnes x ammunition and was going to try some but the dealer I burchased my new rifle from warned me off them. He said he's seen barrel ware that is unceptable plus the accuracy is poor. What are the thoughts out there?

Your dealer doesn't know what he is talking about. Don't listen to him. There isn't any difference in barrel wear between all copper bullets and those that have copper jackets. And the accuracy of the new TSX line is setting new standards in accuracy. Lawdog

triple shock solids are performing very well in my .375 H&H.

Perhaps your dealer is thinking of the advise that you shouldn't us Barnes solid copper bullets to break in the barrel of a new gun. It is recommended to use the cup-and-core type for initial barrel breakin then switch to Barnes X or TSX thereafter.

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Originally posted by stubblejumper:
The original barnes x bullets were not very accurate in many rifles and copper fouling was extreme.The barnes tsx is a very different bullet from the original barnes x in that they are very accurate in most rifles and copper fouling is no longer an issue.By the way, barrels don't wear out from friction,rather the throat erodes from pressure and temperature.

Perfectly said. I agree.

I agree with what's been said so far as well.

I have a pair of 338s that are astoundingly accurate with TSX bullets, and I don't recall every hearing such uniform and widespread praise from so many riflemen over the accuracy of any other bullet, except possibly Nosler's Ballistic Tip.

Gun dealer advice can be very deceptive. Considering the fact that the man handing out that advice either owns the store or is employed by the store, you'd think that he'd know what the duce he was talking about.

But a lot of gunstore people, even the owners, have very little experience as hunters or riflemen, and many of them adopt positions on arms, ammo, components, and accessories that they pull out of thin air, and usually for assorted profit motives.

Gun dealers usually make be sick and sad. Around here, some of the gun store folks will hand out all sorts of advice on elk rifles, but many of them have never shot a elk in their lives, and many of them will tell you all about what you need for an African safari without ever setting foot on the Dark Continent. One dealer will assure you that a certain optics line he sells is the absolute best on planet Earth, but the truth is, he buys that line for a very favorable price, and thus creates a bigger profit margin for himself rather than some other brand, even if the other brand is actually better.............

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Another vote for the TSXs. I tried them this year for the first time and will stay with them. I have taken 5 deer this year and they performed perfectly. At the range I shoot cheaper Sierras with lighter loads for practice. I practice with a lighter bullet as well with the light loads and end up with about the same zero point.

I have never had much trouble getting good hunting accuracy from conventional X bullets....I just work my way up one grain at a time. In accurate rifles I have always got 2.5-3" groups at 300 yards.

I got a big shock when I tried the Tsx in a few different calibers. I freely admit that the damn bullets are hero makers and that "hunting accuracy" now has a smaller definition.
Take my full throttle 375 Ultra and 270gr TSX combo for example: 1.5 to (never more than) 2" at 200 yards. I have owned some expensive guns that were not able to do this with target bullets and carefully assembled hand loads!

Life is good for an X-man these days!

Jamie

I love the TSX. I hve noticed you dont need to load them full throttle for exceptional accuracy or penetration. I deer hunt with a 257 Roberts in South Texas loaded to 2800 fps with 100gr TSX shooting under 3/4moa. This weekend I took a 190# management buck at 202 yards. He was quarting to me and the bullet entered the front of his near shoulder, took out his heart and one lung then exited behind his off shoulder hitting 2 ribs. He only went 20 yards and u.f.d'. All this at 2800fps. The TSX is a killer, accurate and does not foul out your barrel any more than any other bullet.

Perry

Thats what I've heard that barnes doesn't fill your barrel full of copper with these tsx bullets.

The TSXs perform perfectly for me. I shoot the 140 TSX in my 7mm08 and shoot 3/8 groups. This is my first year using them and have 6 perfect kills on whitetails with them. You get less meat damage and I think due to the fact that they don't come apart. They open up and rip a nice hole right through the deer with no pieces of bullet left behind. They get a perfect bullet vote from me.

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Originally posted by Dwight:
The TSXs perform perfectly for me. I shoot the 140 TSX in my 7mm08 and shoot 3/8 groups. This is my first year using them and have 6 perfect kills on whitetails with them. You get less meat damage and I think due to the fact that they don't come apart. They open up and rip a nice hole right through the deer with no pieces of bullet left behind. They get a perfect bullet vote from me.

Dwight,
Ever concider shooting 120s instead of 140s. I have a 7X57 and barnes suggested for whitetail using the 120s. thought being you dont need the extra weight for penetration due to bullet design. I have both loaded up accurately but nothing put on game yet.

I have considered the 120 and will try them this spring. My only hesitation is that I am getting 3/8" groups with the 140TSX and 2830fps in a 20 inch tube. If I can get the same accuracy from the lighter bullet I may switch since I would be over 3000fps and retaining 100% of its weight the 120 will expand and exit easily.