Anybody know how they shoot with H4350 and 160 partitions? How about experiences with any factory loads?

Dunno, but I'm fixin to find out how my new one likes H4350 and 150 Partitions.

I've had great luck with the FN-chesters, so I don't anticipate any drama.

Would love hear how your rifles shoot !
Its a great round. If you are not thrilled with your H4350 Try h-414 , Lots of guys like it.
I get great groups and 2900 fps from my Ruger #1...
...tj3006

I may try some rn 160. So far with 140 nothing spectacular.

140gr H-414 49.0 ~2700 fps looks OK.

5 shot groups with a FW barrel may be a bit too much.

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Originally posted by richj:
5 shot groups with a FW barrel may be a bit too much.

I agree. Three at 100 yards works fine for establishing a base line for accuracy. When practicing before hunting season. I shoot a bunch of one shot groups with a cold barrel at varied ranges to see how well my load and scope are dialled in. In a hunting rifle, I believe that knowing where that first shot is going to land is the most important. While sub MOA groups are nice, I'm satisfied with bigger groups than most rifle looney's. If I know I can be in the big game kill-zone at 300 yards, which I try to make my self-imposed maximum shooting distance, I'm quite happy. Lots of folks want to be able to shoot a hair off a flea's heinee at 600 yards, but I just don't try the really long shots at big game. Accuracy wise, I've had no trouble getting sub MOA groups from several 308's and 222's, but that's to be expected. Getting exceptional accuracy from some of the traditionally long-throated late 19th century rounds is a lot harder, and I just don't get too worked up if 2-MOA is the best I can do. It still puts bullets in the clock works pretty far out there.

Still looking for answers to my original post. I don't have one of these rifles yet, but might get one for my kids if reports are good. Thanks

No, because while 160 gr NPs are my first choice, I can't find any 4350!

I got first blood with my new m70 in 7x57 Friday morning. A fairy average 5x4 mule deer, the second biggest buck in the area and the first non-typical anything I've ever taken. I used factory ammo due to lack of appropriate powder. I figured I'd try out the idea that you can go down a bullet size with mono metal bullets. Hornady Superperformance 139gr GMX. The box says 2740 fps.

The bulk of the shooting opportunities we get are at <50 yds and this was no exception. The buck followed a doe out of a batch of bush at ~40yds. He was quartering towards me and I tried to shoot him on the point of the shoulder. I missed bone by 1/2 inch or so and got 1 lung. He was dead on his feet when I put in an insurance shot at 30yds, a double lung shot placed to avoid big bones.

Both shots left craters >2 inches wide on the surface and failed to exit the deer. I recovered the second bullet against the hide on the off shoulder. I can perhaps see why the first shot didn't exit, but the second?

I'll have a 160 gr NP or equivalent load worked up for next season or I will take a different rifle. The bullets obviously did the job, but I don't know what would have happened had I actually hit the shoulder with the first shot. I sure wouldn't trust that load to clean up a mess if you had to shoot through the south end of a north bound deer. Maybe it would work at longer ranges or on smaller deer.

Good luck with your loads,
Dean

Thanks for the feedback, Dean. I saw some of the biggest dear I've ever seen between Grand Prairie and Fort St. John. Road kill moose seem almost as common as road kill deer in Texas. I almost hit a couple myself. Haven't got to hunt up there though. Please do share your loads when you get them worked up. Thanks again!
Matt

What is the actual weight of those newer FN featherweights? Thinking about picking up one this coming year, after Shot Show to see what they come up with for chambering(s)!

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Originally posted by Pat Brennan:
Thinking about picking up one this coming year, after Shot Show to see what they come up with for chambering(s)!

I would love to see more runs of Bobs and Swedes, and/or 250 Savage. A run of 280 Rem or 7x64 wouldn't hurt, but the 7x64 will never happen.

we also need to see more guns in the .260 Remington.

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Originally posted by vines:
we also need to see more guns in the .260 Remington.

That round came out after 1980. It won't kill nothin'!!!

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Originally posted by ColoradoMatt:
Anybody know how they shoot with H4350 and 160 partitions? How about experiences with any factory loads?

I haven't tried the 160's in any variety. I bought one of these FW's in the same cal for my soon to be 12 year old a year ago or thereabouts.

I started load development with IMR4350 in 140gr bullets to keep recoil down a bit. He's growing into it though and I'm stepping up the loads for him.

Started working with 140gr North Fork Bonded Cores and H4350 this weekend using my IMR data for a start point. I'm up to 48.5gr in H4350 and 2730fps on the chrony. No signs of pressure. COAL set at 3.095" and there's still room for more powder. 3 shot group at about 0.75".

I don't know if that helps or not, hope so.

7mmnutt:

That does help. Just put a Cabela's lightweight Super Grade on layaway. Taking my 12 year old son after Hoggs and dear in Texas in late December. What brass and primer are you using? Thanks
Matt

my 257 feather don't like 3 shots down the pipe unless I wait a good minute between shots at the range. FS

I have an older mod 70 FW in 270win
It loves federal premium 130 gr Pointed soft point ammo.
I can't hand load anything more accurate !
Shoots woodchucks in the head @100yrds no problem .
It was and is the only rifle that I own that's shoots factory ammo that well !
P27od. Model number on ammo box

I bought several boxes with same lot number

Sorry Matt
Mine is a 270 , not a 7x57
Didn't mean to get off topic

No problem.

My 7x57 is a custom on a 1909 Argentine with a VERY slender barrel. It consistently shoots under 1/2" 3 shot groups. When barrel heats up it climbs very badly. Took 3 Kudu and several Impala in Zimbabwe with it several years ago. One of the Kudu was out to 300yds. Load was 44grs of IMR4350 behind the 175gr Nosler Partitions. Rifle was specifically built to shoot 175gr NP's. I am about to build a second 7x57. Purchased a Mauser action on sale by Sarco. It is the Dumoulin they advertise. I have an 8.5 twist sporter weight Kreiger barrel to use. It will go in a Boyd laminate. I do like the 7x57.

Thanks for all the feedback so far fellous'! A few weeks ago, Cabela's put their limited Cabela's edition lightweight Super Grade Model 70's in 7x57 and 257 Rob on close out, as their remaining stock had been sitting for a very long time. I was able to put both on layaway, and picked up the 7x57 just yesterday. While the original hang tag says $1849, I picked mine up for $899! On top of that, I had a $20 off coupon and BACO is giving me a refund for all the taxes through a special tax refund program that they are running till the end of the year.

I'll be taking my son to where I grew up in North Texas for piggies in a few weeks. Load work starts tomorrow. I have 140, and 150 grain Nosler ballistic tips, 160 grain Sierra SBTs, and 175 grain partitions on hand. For powders, I have H4350, hybrid 100V, RL-15, 17, and 22, CFE-223, and H4831 on hand. H4340 seems to be the old standard. However, I'll try any load, containing my components, that is known to shoot well in these new Model 70s. Would anyone else who owns a new lightweight SG or featherweight care to share their experiences? Thanks
Matt

My Mausers with a 9 or 9.5 inch twist shoot everything from 130 speers to 175 gr Noslers. I suspect the Win has the 1x10 twist and it should do as well with all .284 bullets or at least most of them.

They work pretty good...210 lb black tail... 115 grain HP, 28 grains SR 4759.. heart shot.. 50 yds or so...



accuracy is pretty good out of them...bedded tho...



130 grain Sierra SP, 22.5 grains of Blue Dot, 100 yds....5 shot group...

not too bad for a $300 rifle...bought used

Just because somebodys 7x57 of any make shoots great does not guarantee another of the same make will do as well..The Win. mod 70 is a good gun and they must pass a 3" group as I recall, some do and some probably don't with any factory rifle. One thing for sure its a heck of nice caliber. Better yet with a 06 magazine and a matching throat so that you can seat the bullets way out and get much more velocity if you see the need..I always use H414 in the 7x576 or my 275 Rigby (7x57)

So often i agree with Ray.
If you are shooting 140s from a 7x57 the odds are good H 414 will work.
However, with the new FN built model 70s Accuracy should be very good. All the variations i have seen have appeal on one level or another.
I will buy one as soon as the right one.
...tj3006

As an old Win. fan I would not own the latest new mod 70 and like the post 64 they are doomed to failure.

If they are stupid enough to discontinue the old mod. 70 trigger which happens to be the best and safest trigger ever designed, they can't possibly know how to build a rifle and they must be top heavy with those friggen bean counters who only deal with the profit margin and that won't work with the America shooter and the changing of the guard with Winchester over the years tells the story..