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I purchased a rem 700 TI and cant get it to shoot a group under 4 inches. The ammo I have tried is the hornady interbond LM 130 gr. in .270, also the hornady LM boattail, and the federal prem. high energy trophy bonded. They all give me the same type of results. If anyone can please help I would deeply appreciate it.
 
Posts: 75 | Location: wisconsin | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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No flames intended, but have you cleaned the barrel? If so it sounds to me like something loose in the scope set up. capt david BTW, Federal and Winchester 'cheap stuff' shoots very well in my rifles.
 
Posts: 655 | Location: South Texas | Registered: 11 January 2004Reply With Quote
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Sounds like a scope problem.

In some rifles the Hdy LMs don't shoot well at all. My Rem. 700 will shoot sub moa w/ several reloads but, it will group around 1.5-2" w/ the Hdy LMs.

Try some Hdy Custom 140 grn BTILSPs or some cheap Remington 140s. They should give you at least 1.5" or better groups. They might be alittle slower but, they are alot more accurate in most rifles.

If those dont shoot, something must be loose.

Good Luck!

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Posts: 4146 | Location: North Louisiana | Registered: 18 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I checked everything on the scope and its good. the rifle or ammo is the problem. how I know this is that my hunting partner bought the same rifle and his is doing the same thing. I am stumped.
 
Posts: 75 | Location: wisconsin | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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What kinda scope??? Also, I'd maybe switch to another scope with a known track record as a test. Also, and this will bring screams from the "gotta free float everything" boys, put a biz card (aka matchbook cover) between the barrel and the pressure point at the front end of the stock.
Have you called Remington? What do they say? Most of the stuff you hear isn't magic. It will only enhance accuracy. If reasonable accuracy isn't there to begin with, then you have gross problems that have to be corrected before you start "fine tuning" your rifle.
 
Posts: 2037 | Location: frametown west virginia usa | Registered: 14 October 2001Reply With Quote
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I have a lupy 3-10 vx-III on it. The worst problem is that my hunting partner also bought the same rifle and has had the exact same problems. I have not been able to reach remington they have been closed. Thats right closed.The recording states for training.
 
Posts: 75 | Location: wisconsin | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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How about the following, we need more information on what you are doing:

Did you properly break in the barrel with cleaning?

How warm is the barrel?

Did you check your action screws?

Is the rifle barrel touching anything at all when you shoot?

I am hearing that it takes up to 50-60 rounds to burnish those Rem rifles before accuracy sets in.

I never had luck with Hornady LM. Use their custom or, like already posted, try some Rem or Win ammo.

Good luck and Good Shooting.
 
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I did the barrel break in aprox 50 shots with the cleaning between each shot for the first 20 shots then went to cleaning for every 3 shots and lastly after 5 shots.When I have been trying to sight in I usally wait 15 to 20 min. between shoots.

Could it be that the ammo being a light mag load or high energy be to hot for the light weight contour barrel on these guns?
 
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My own experiences with the light magnum and high energy loads has shown that accuracy is very poor in some rifles.
 
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You might also want to try some 140 grn. Nosler Ballistic tips or 140 grn. Sierra Game King BTSPs loaded in Federal Premium's line of factory rounds.

I think velocity is the critter here. Those light mags are hard to tame.

If you can get some reloads from an experienced reloader and you are stuck on high velocities, I would suggest the 150 grn. NBT loaded w/ H4831 or R22 going in the neighborhood of 3000 fps. That would be a heck of a deer round and a flat shooter. The Hdy 150 SPILs shoot tiny groups out of my Rem. even when pushed to the limits.

Good Luck!

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Posts: 4146 | Location: North Louisiana | Registered: 18 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Remington and Colt are both on summer shutdown for a week.
If I were you, I would go over the bedding carefully. Tighten the front action screw and then while tightening the rear action screw, place a finger on the tang area and see if you can discern and movement of the action. If so, bedding is in order. Next, reload some medium range loads and see what happens. I can attest that super light rifles are hard to shoot off the bench, but usually can be done with concentration. If you still have problems, the I'd see what Remmy has to say.
As a last resort, I'd use some JB or Flitz on the bore. I had some trouble with an Abolt, after the Flitz treatment it shot really well.
To be honest with you, I don't usually put a lot of effort into a rifle that won't show some promise. I'm a firm believer that if a rifle is a good one, it will shoot most loads at least acceptably well. One that shoots poor more often than not, it tradin' stock. If you can't trust it to shoot good, then confidence is lost and the mental game is lost with it. There simply are too many good shooting factory rifles available to mess with one that is problematic. Not everyone can afford to do this, and I sympathize with them, but I'm lucky and don't have to spend too much time with a poor shooter.
I'm sorry for your problems, I've been there, it sucks. Sometimes the best idea is to abandon the deal and move on. When I spend more time pulling hair than shooting, it's time for a change.
 
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Well what I plan to do is try the rifle one more time. I am going to buy some rem cor-lok pointed power point 130 grain and see if they will group if not the rifle is GONE.
 
Posts: 75 | Location: wisconsin | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I posted a similar problem with a Remington M700 .375 H & H Classic. I tried everything and I mean everything. The bottom line is, it had a bad barrel. Nothing I or anyone else could detect, it just shot patterns! It now sits in the corner and I bought a CZ 550 LUX and love it. It shoots like a varmit rifle and I leave in three days for RSA and I'll figure out what will happen to the Remington when I get back. My opinion is let us cut our losses and get new barrels and start over! Good luck.
 
Posts: 426 | Location: Nevada | Registered: 14 July 2003Reply With Quote
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I'm no Rem fan but it should be better than this!
Check the bedding and have it recrowned by a 'smith with some sense. If the crown is off slightly it will cause an otherwise decent barrel to toss 'em everywhere. I had a Ruger that was worse and it now will print 1" groups consistantly. The bedding could also be part of it. The shim under the barrel advice is worth the time.
It can also take several small steps to get there, meaning that it may take some bedding, a crown, and trigger work. Could require lapping bolt lugs, or even lapping the barrel. The question is do you really want to fool with it that much?

It is always a bummer when one doesn't live up to expectations. I'd probably not give up on it yet myself.

P.S. Thanks for the heads up when it appears in the classifieds!
 
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