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Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
No one talks much anymore about the 7mm magnum.
Has it been replaced by the new rounds?What is negative about it that i dont get?I think it is one of my favorites for accuracy and reasonable recoil.I only shot a few heads of big game and had excellent results.Any negative reports or suggestions for ammo?For a all round
rifle i cant think of a better one?Anyone else like the 7mag as a favorite?Does the 160gr.bullet really add anything over the 175gr. as a do it all one bullet load?Thanks in advance!

I can honestly say this, the 7m/m Remington magnum is my vavourite non-30 calibre all-round big game pick.

It's just hard to argue with the versatility of the 7RM, especially for the proverbial "one-gun hunter." (Although this is a rare species which almost always quickly evolves into the MANY-gun hunter.) A round that can take marmots to moose is hard to beat, especially when the ammo is easy to find, the recoil is tolerable for the average fellow, and the variety of rifles it can be had in is staggering.

A fellow talked me into trading with him my rem 30/06 for his browning 7 mag last saturday he said it would drive tacks using Hornady 162 gr sst factory bullets.Well I guess he was right.After zeroning the scope in this is the first group I shot using the factory load.




This is how my 30/06 shot:

owensby,

If you ever need someone to take either of those non-shooters <cough> off your hands, you let me know! Nice Job.

I'm a big fan of the 7mm Rem.Mag. It's the only magnum I own, and it certainly does the job on almost all N. American big game, save for the big brown bears. Mine is an older Remington 700BDL and quite accurate. I load up mainly Speer 160gr. SPs. which usually group in the .6"s. It also packs one hell of a wallop, and is not so heavy as to require a gun bearer. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

I once had a Ruger 77 that had been glass bedded into a terribly ugly sh%# brown fiberglass stock that was given to me by a client that thought it too ugly to have a place in his vault. When I finished workng up loads that ugly gun shot the most beautiful .4 groups, consistently, not just now and then. Unfortunately it went away when my second wife left. I sure do miss that gun. Next came a old factory Browning BBR that shot a 3-shot at 100 yds that measured just under .3. I don't know just how that rifle shot on a consistent basis, because a friend of mine now owns it. Then there was this Remmy 700 in 7 mag I borrowed. It worked real well on the 400 yd elk I shot with it. If I had only one rifle for everything from prairie dogs to elk, it would be chambered for the 7mm Remingtom Magnum.

I bought a Sako Deluxe Finnbear in 7 Rem Mag in the gun club at Lajes Field, Azores in 1968 for $130. One shot kills on everything I shot up to elk with maybe 20 or so animals in the freezer. One day I bought a Rem 700 BDL in 7mm Express (280)and haven't used the 7 Mag since....lot less kick and kills just as well as the big gun and I guess I'm not good enought to shoot more than 300 yds or so anyway.

Maybe it's age, but the 7x57 and 280 does EVERYTHING the 7 Mag does and easier. I tell my son his Ironhead Sportster is too loud and he tells me I'm too old...maybe he's right!!

You’re on a gun board. Talk to any hot-rodder and they will never mention their daily commuter. I think of the 7 RM as that, the go to, no fuss, get it done rifle. In that same class is the 30-06, 270, 300 win and 22-250. Works fine and the ammo is available at Wal-mart. It’s the odd duck, finicky thing that deserves discussion time.

Owensby,
Ignor tmoore 4627 and don't give up on that 7mm mag. Huuuumm, with a little practice you could get that gun to shoot straight.

I think that the Rem 7mm is a great gun. But in reading both lists of reloading eqipment I did n't see any listed for the Great 338 Rem Ultra Mag. It out shoots the Lapul in 338. I have both reloaders in LEE & RCBS.

I really like the way the Rem 7mm shoots all the 150gr bullets to the same place at 200 yds

i picked up a sig shr 970 for pretty cheap in 7rm and it BLOWS my dads 30-06 out of the water. more power, and flat, FLAT trajectories. 100-300 it shoots laser beams. anybody know how much my rifle is worth, i got it for 500 bucks. almost new condition with a 50mm bausch and lomb scope on it.

Great cartridge. I own one as well as a pile of other rifles. It can do what anything else my other medium bores can do. If stricty deer hunting with long shots I prefer my .264 but it's splitting hairs. Favorite bullets-154 Hornady and 175 partition. Favorite powders IMR7828 and RL22. reflex264

I agree with the analogy of "makeminestainless". In fact, I don't even consider the 7mm RM a magnum. An STW, a 264, a 300 RUM, these are magnums. The great old 7mm is a "go to" gun, kinda like a 30-06.

After two 7mm Mags, both of which were poor shooters I am afraid Ill take a 308 any day. Also I struggled to get the published performance out of it.

I have now got a 300wsm as a replacement for my 7mm mag and have had really good results with it.

Personally I dont think the 7mm mag shows much advantage over a 3006, 270 or even a 308 in hitting power or trajectory.

But if it works for you, thats all that matters.

Well, I have to give my praises to the mighty 7rm. Mine is a Weatherby chambered in the 7rm. The round it favors is the 160 Sierra gk. This was the first MAGNUM that I fired. I was both nervous and impressed as a 26yr old. That was about 20 yrs ago. The first of many Whitetails that it ANCHORED, and I mean Anchored, had liquid for lungs. I was immediatly sold on this round and it became my weapon of choice until my son figured it was the only rifle he had confidence in. He will be be away this hunting season (USMC), maybe I will rekindle an old flame You could be like a dog chasing its tail trying to find a better all around round. Cheers to the 7MMRM

Sometime I think I could almost leave everythig else in the gun cabinet except my 7mm Rem. Mag. I've never been a big magnum fan but have to make an exception for this one.
I find it very accurate, hard hitting and not half bad on recoil.
You can't do much better than that. Just one mans opinion. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

The only time a 7 Mag. is better than a .270 is with the 175 gr. bullets at 2900 FPS in a 26 inch barrel and then thats not by a heck of a lot...and if you put a 26" tube on a .270 it gets even less...The 270 with a 160 Nosler is about as good as anything the 7 mag can come up with, and Speer used to make a 170 gr. that I drove at 2800 plus a tad in my 22" .270..If you own a chronograph you can dispel a lot of 7 mag. BS...

It is an accurate caliber and a good killer of game in its own right inasmuch as a 175 gr. bullet at 2900 is an awesome killer of game, the equal of a 180 gr. in a 300 Win mag. at about the same velocity.

All fine calibers, and little difference in any of them in the killing fields..

I'll have to disagree w/ ya 100% on that one Ray, I've shot and seen shot dozens of deer sized game w/ both the 270 win and the 7RM and there is no comparison, Not even close!

They are both great Cartridges but, saying a 270 is "the same" as a 7RM is like comparing a 30-30 to a 30-06.

The 7RM definitely puts a more authoritive blow on the animals. W/ the 270 they tend to "Take it like a Man" so to speak, and run like hell! Not saying they don't drop sometimes w/ the good ole' 270 but, it sure doesn't inflict the internal damage as the 7RM from my experiences w/ the two.

Ballistically not too close either, I get 3060 w/ max loads in the 270 w/ 150s. W/ the 7RM 3200-3300 is not uncommon at Max loads.

Have a Good One!

Reloader

For those that reload the 7mm Remington Mag and uses a chrony for accurate or honest velocity reading,

what are your velocity with a 140, 150, 160 and 175 grain bullet as well as the name of the manufactor and type of the bullet.

I've never received 2900 FPS with a 175 grain Nosler in a 7mm RM like Ray mentioned, but I did get 2760 FPS.

I am just trying to decide between a 7mm/338 RUM, 7mm STW or a 7mm RM for my rifle project even though I have 200 7mm RM virgin Norma brass laying around.

I also like the 7mag, Mine is an old BDL. I resisted it for years simply beacuse some of the rediculas claims I herd about it from guys who claimed they shot critters at ranges where I could,t see them. But i finaly bought one and it is a very good round. I by passed it a few years back beacuse frankly, its only a little bit hotter than a hand loaded 30,06 i already had, I went for the STW instead. Now there is a hot shooting mother in my Model 70 clasic, I 3350 with 160 grain accubonds and often 3 shots in les than a .25 inch group... tj3006

Thomas Jones,
"3350 with a 160 grain"?
that's impressive!
would you care to share the reload data?

damned if i can find the data, but I cab tell you it is a little over book with either H-1000 or RL-25, and my notes showed a big velocity jump when I switched to federal mag primers, I stick with the GM215M for all my magnum shooting now, and I think the velocity increase was 75FPS over winchester primers...tj3006

Norseman,

Of Coarse you must work up to Maximum loads.

I'll usually work up to book max and if no pressure signs are present, I usually go just a hair higher.

Steves data is usually a good reference for just a tad over book maxes.

That being said, w/ a 24" barrel you can expect 3300 and alittle more safely w/ 140s, 3250+ w/ 150s, and 3100+ w/ 160s. I don't shoot 175s, just don't see the point in going any heavier than a 160 in the good ole 7RM. R22 seems to give the best velocity w/ the least pressures.

I'll probably get to the range in a couple of weeks to check the speed on some more 150s over R22, I'll let you know what happens.

Have a Good One,

Reloader

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
damned if i can find the data, but I cab tell you it is a little over book with either H-1000 or RL-25, and my notes showed a big velocity jump when I switched to federal mag primers, I stick with the GM215M for all my magnum shooting now, and I think the velocity increase was 75FPS over winchester primers...tj3006

It must have been RL 25?

"162 GR. HDY SPBT
COL: 3.290"

H870 80.0 2883 43,300 CUP
RETUMBO 73.5C 2963 50,500 CUP
H1000 70.0 2905 49,600 CUP
H4831 64.0 2871 49,800 CUP
H4350 58.0 2799 49,400 CUP"
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/rifle/7mmremma.php

Nope it's not RL 25.
"7mm Rem. Mag. (start over with Centerfire)
• Nosler 160 Partition


1 Matching Recipes
Case Minimum OAL
(inches) Bbl Length Primer Powder Charge Weight
(grains) Velocity
(fps) Pressure
(psi) Print
Rem 3.285 24.0 Fed. 215 Reloader 25 68.0 3,028 58,000 Print this recipe "
http://recipes.alliantpowder.com/rg.taf?_function=cente...er%20160%20Partition

Look again for those notes as they may be the missing link to high performance.



That 7mm RM has it all over my poor 7mm WSM as I can get only 3250 fps with 140's out of it. My 264 WM will do 3350 fps though! Of course that's with 120 gr bullets. I wish I could even shoot 1/4" groups.

He's talkin' about an STW.

Sounds like there may be alittle confusion.

Good Luck!

Reloader

quote:

He's talkin' about an STW.

Sounds like there may be alittle confusion.

Your right Reloader. Thanks for the correction.

quote:

Originally posted by Savage99:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
damned if i can find the data, but I cab tell you it is a little over book with either H-1000 or RL-25, and my notes showed a big velocity jump when I switched to federal mag primers, I stick with the GM215M for all my magnum shooting now, and I think the velocity increase was 75FPS over winchester primers...tj3006

It must have been RL 25?

"162 GR. HDY SPBT
COL: 3.290"

H870 80.0 2883 43,300 CUP
RETUMBO 73.5C 2963 50,500 CUP
H1000 70.0 2905 49,600 CUP
H4831 64.0 2871 49,800 CUP
H4350 58.0 2799 49,400 CUP"
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/rifle/7mmremma.php

Nope it's not RL 25.
"7mm Rem. Mag. (start over with Centerfire)
• Nosler 160 Partition


1 Matching Recipes
Case Minimum OAL
(inches) Bbl Length Primer Powder Charge Weight
(grains) Velocity
(fps) Pressure
(psi) Print
Rem 3.285 24.0 Fed. 215 Reloader 25 68.0 3,028 58,000 Print this recipe "
http://recipes.alliantpowder.com/rg.taf?_function=cente...er%20160%20Partition

Look again for those notes as they may be the missing link to high performance.



That 7mm RM has it all over my poor 7mm WSM as I can get only 3250 fps with 140's out of it. My 264 WM will do 3350 fps though! Of course that's with 120 gr bullets. I wish I could even shoot 1/4" groups.

My .264 shoots 120gr ballistic tips 3400fps out of its 26" barrel and does this.

140grs no problem over 3200fps. Max dose 7828. reflex264

Nice Group Reflex.

I've always been interested in the .264 WM, just never purchased one. Seems like we get such a variation in velocities from those that own them.

Reloader

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Originally posted by Reloader:
Nice Group Reflex.

I've always been interested in the .264 WM, just never purchased one. Seems like we get such a variation in velocities from those that own them.

Reloader

The difference in velocities between 24" and 26" barrels is more pronounced in this cartridge than any I know of. The beauty is you don't have to shove everything warp speed to get great performance. I used a load for a while that sent a 140 Grand Slam 3028fps that was very mild to shoot and killed deer like a lightning bolt. I have shot that same bullet at 3200fps on deer also. Kills good both ways. I use the 120 ballistic tips at 3400fps for bean field crop damage kills. I have killed a deer slightly past 600 yards with it. Great cartridge and very mis-understood. Fixin to go shoot my 7 mag. Like to get it to that level of accuracy. Realistically the .264 shoots consistent .5" groups. That .151" is best to date. reflex264

I recently acquired a Sako 75 Stainless in 7mm Rem Mag. I haven't killed anything with it yet, but it's very acucrate. So far with reloder 22 and 160 gr accubond it's a sub moa gun, 65 gr gives me 3060fps and I expect it will hit something hard this fall.