[URL= ]Krieger[/URL]
Twenty six inch barrel,1-12 twist,Palma.I went with Krieger this time.Kriegers are my favorite.I didn`t get a chance to shoot it off the bench yet.I did shoot if offhand and got it very hot.I`ve got two others on the way.I will shoot it off the bench next week at 50 and post results.

Krieger has always been my favorite but I do try others just for variety. I have a Bartlein gain twist (9.25" - 8"), 5R barrel in 264 diameter that I have to get chambered and threaded for my 6.5x284.

Why shoot it at 50 yards? Should be accurate faaaaar beyond that.

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Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
Why shoot it at 50 yards? Should be accurate faaaaar beyond that.

Not after I get it hot and the bore diameter opens up permanently.

I`ll shoot it at 100 and 200yds too and post results.It should be interesting.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
[URL= ]Krieger[/URL]
Twenty six inch barrel,1-12 twist,Palma.I went with Krieger this time.Kriegers are my favorite.I didn`t get a chance to shoot it off the bench yet.I did shoot if offhand and got it very hot.I`ve got two others on the way.I will shoot it off the bench next week at 50 and post results.

Got it very hot right off the bat. No wonder you burn barrels up. Ever hear of barrel break in?

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
[URL= ]Krieger[/URL]
Twenty six inch barrel,1-12 twist,Palma.I went with Krieger this time.Kriegers are my favorite.I didn`t get a chance to shoot it off the bench yet.I did shoot if offhand and got it very hot.I`ve got two others on the way.I will shoot it off the bench next week at 50 and post results.

Got it very hot right off the bat. No wonder you burn barrels up. Ever hear of barrel break in?

Is everyone dumb here?

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Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
Why shoot it at 50 yards? Should be accurate faaaaar beyond that.

I ma going to use my second Krieger barreled rifle for shooting offhand at 100,200 and possibly 300yds.I am going to try and really work on my hold this year and my trigger control.

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Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
Why shoot it at 50 yards? Should be accurate faaaaar beyond that.

Sure looks like its wearing iron sights. And not target ones at that.

A few quotes from Tony Boyer,

``A great barrel is the real secret to this game``

``If you have the means buy as many barrels as possible``

``Contrary to what many say,I rarely shoot a barrel more than 600rds in competition``

``There are barrels out there that shoot better than they should.They have been given the name hummer.I can assure you they exist``

Now,I didn`t need him to tell me that.I knew that!

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Krieger has always been my favorite but I do try others just for variety. I have a Bartlein gain twist (9.25" - 8"), 5R barrel in 264 diameter that I have to get chambered and threaded for my 6.5x284.

I just recently heard about Bartlein.They are single point cut-rifled barrels.Very good stuff I here.

[/QUOTE]Not after I get it hot and the bore diameter opens up permanently.[/QUOTE]

Whotinell! Got a pretty good deal there. Go to 8mm, then .338, then .35, etc and soon you'll be at .458. One new barrel and about a dozen new calibers. Now, proceed to burn that barrel out!
B.I.F.

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Originally posted by MuskegMan:

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Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
Why shoot it at 50 yards? Should be accurate faaaaar beyond that.

Sure looks like its wearing iron sights. And not target ones at that.

Looks like a regular old Remington rear sight adjusted to the max height, and then some. I'd say the front sight blade is too low.

I have a Keieger barrel for one rifle. It's for the Encore. I never had or shot a better barrel. It was super easy to get accuracy with the first load I tried. Fortunately, it's difficult to shoot a single shot rapidly enough to get the barrel super hot, so it's still in the breakin stage, and plan on it staying that way for a while.

It's my opinion that if 50 yds and iron sights are the sport, a lever action 30-30 or 45-70 is the rifle of choice. For the price of the Krieger custom a guy could buy one of each in the lever rifles, used, with some careful shopping. And they generally come with iron sights with the proper height matched front and rear.

KB

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:

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Originally posted by MuskegMan:

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Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
Why shoot it at 50 yards? Should be accurate faaaaar beyond that.

Sure looks like its wearing iron sights. And not target ones at that.

Looks like a regular old Remington rear sight adjusted to the max height, and then some. I'd say the front sight blade is too low.

I have a Keieger barrel for one rifle. It's for the Encore. I never had or shot a better barrel. It was super easy to get accuracy with the first load I tried. Fortunately, it's difficult to shoot a single shot rapidly enough to get the barrel super hot, so it's still in the breakin stage, and plan on it staying that way for a while.

It's my opinion that if 50 yds and iron sights are the sport, a lever action 30-30 or 45-70 is the rifle of choice. For the price of the Krieger custom a guy could buy one of each in the lever rifles, used, with some careful shopping. And they generally come with iron sights with the proper height matched front and rear.

KB

The fixed front blade is too high. That is why I set the rear sight so high.A lower front sight post would raise the point of impact and solve the issue.The Krieger barrel cost about 500 dollars and about 1000 installed.The one pictured is on a model 700 action and factory stock.I know that you could buy a rifle with iron sights for that money to shoot at 50 and 100yds but the barrels are not heavy enough and just don`t last for the kind of shooting I do.They get too hot and lose all accuracy with only a couple of visits to the range.I have used a factory Remington VLS with a bull barrel but the barrel is not heavy enough and it got too hot.It stopped shooting in no time.I also used a Win 94 in 30-30 and the barrel was toast in no time.A heavy barrel like a Palma is the smartest choice for fun target practice.The Remington sights I have on do the job fine.I have my barrels drilled so that I can switch them from rifle to rifle in seconds.The next time I get the rifle rebarreled,I am going to ask the smith if he could file off some steel and lower the front post.I will also try to find a heavier barrel than the one I have on.When I shoot,I shoot at least 50 rds and I get it over with in a half hour or less.I would like to spent more time and shoot more slowly but it is just the way things are(I got to return to work ).

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
[URL= ]Krieger[/URL]
Twenty six inch barrel,1-12 twist,Palma.I went with Krieger this time.Kriegers are my favorite.I didn`t get a chance to shoot it off the bench yet.I did shoot if offhand and got it very hot.I`ve got two others on the way.I will shoot it off the bench next week at 50 and post results.

Got it very hot right off the bat. No wonder you burn barrels up. Ever hear of barrel break in?

Is everyone dumb here?

Just you----

Here are some groups I shot today.The first one is three shots off the bench at 50yds.The second one is a bunch shot offhand at 100yds.I have to say that it was -24 celcius, I had on a ton of clothing,was standing on 4 feet of soft snow,it was snowing and dark.I could not see the target but I was trying to hold in the same spot wherever that was.
[URL= ]50yds off the bench[/URL]
[URL= ]100yds off hand[/URL]

What a weird deal !

I was out again shooting with it today.So far I have 150rds through it.For the first time that I can remember I have not used anything to clean it except a patch with solvent.I will not use a brush on this one and if it stops grouping well at 100yds,I will use JB but only on a patch and jag.I made it late to the range again and was shooting in a snowfall.I have it sighted in a liitle to high but I did`nt take a chance with the sight adjustment screw-it is worn out-so I left it.Here is the group.I am happy with it since considering I could not see the orange and had to make the best of it.I also shot the bunch in a whole string-very tiring.
[URL= ]100yds offhand-poor light[/URL]

Good shooting in my opinion. I am terrible offhand. I even hunt from a table.
I hope to work on that this year though.

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:
Good shooting in my opinion. I am terrible offhand. I even hunt from a table.
I hope to work on that this year though.

Thanks Donald.When I clicked on the post I expected someone to say the opposite.

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:
Good shooting in my opinion. I am terrible offhand. I even hunt from a table.
I hope to work on that this year though.

Thanks Donald.When I clicked on the post I expected someone to say the opposite.

Well Maybe others can do better but not me. Like I said I really need work off hand. We do a casual off hand league at our club and it is amazing to see how bad the average hunter is off hand. We shoot at gongs and it is hit or miss and we have very few ties at the end of the month.

Very nice gun. For you folks shooting in the snow, it is 80 degrees here in Central florida today.

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Originally posted by swaincreek:
Very nice gun. For you folks shooting in the snow, it is 80 degrees here in Central florida today.

Thanks swaincreek.There are years that I love the winter and this is one,but cannot explain why, so it is not that bad.

I was out shooting again today.Offhand at 100yds.Got there late again and could not see the orange circle but did the best I could.There are 3 or 4 shots to the right that were used to foul the barrel and adjust the sights.
[URL= ]offhand 100yds[/URL]

I am confident I could halve the size of it if I could see the bullseye.
I put a few solvent soaked patches through it and one JB patch on a jag.I did not scrub hard and the jag was concentric.I am very happy with this barrel.No erosion noticed so far.

Shootaway, have you considered silhouette shooting? Seems to me you would really enjoy high power silhouette, and it would be good practice for what you like to do.

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Originally posted by Canuck:
Shootaway, have you considered silhouette shooting? Seems to me you would really enjoy high power silhouette, and it would be good practice for what you like to do.

Hi Canuck.I am sure I would enjoy it and other rifle shooting sports.The problem is that I have to work long shifts and seven day weeks.The little free time that I have is spent relaxing or trying to get some exercise in.

Besides,here in Quebec, I have not heard of any organized and accessible year round shooting events.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I was out shooting again today.Offhand at 100yds.Got there late again and could not see the orange circle but did the best I could.There are 3 or 4 shots to the right that were used to foul the barrel and adjust the sights.
[URL= ]offhand 100yds[/URL]

I am confident I could halve the size of it if I could see the bullseye.
I put a few solvent soaked patches through it and one JB patch on a jag.I did not scrub hard and the jag was concentric.I am very happy with this barrel.No erosion noticed so far.

Looks like it is grouping well.