I just horsetraded into a pile of P17's and M30's. One of the finds is a 90% engraved action P17 Enfield (I know, I know)by Griffin & Howe (I think) marked barrel chambered in 280 Dubiel. Has twin scope blocks mounted on the barrel. Any data would be appreciated. Thanks.

Rich

It might actually be by DuBiel himself. So what does one do with a pile of Rem 30s? How about more trading/selling or otherwise lightening the load?

The Dubiel was the hotrod of its day. I recall some Canadian connection – either Dubiel was Canadian or sold his rifles to the Canadian Govt, or something like that. I am sure there are pictures of Keith around the 1930’s with pronghorn or some such in “Hell I was There†that had been taken with the 280 Dubiel.

From memory, the Dubiel can be formed from 404 Jeff cases, though they have a fair taper and would take a few forming steps. I am pretty sure I have an article by Seifried in an old G&A – will take a bit of finding though.

Anyhow, I think you have a good score there.

Tigger, as soon as I get through sorting the stuff out I will be looking to do just that.

Fergus, this one is a 300H&H necked down to 7mm/.280 without any changes. Already made one from 300H using my 7STW FL sizing die to get a neck on it. It fits. The barrel is marked "Barreled by Griffin & Howe, Inc. New York. 26" barrel measures .644" at the muzzle and has a barrel band front sight stamped western on the left side. Looks to be an integral barrel band sling swivel and add-on rear sight mount.

Got half a dozen cases headstamped R-P 300 Magnum. I guess everybody knew what you were talking about when you said 300 Magnum in those days. Has two scope blocks on it, guess we can get a rough dating from that.

Also have a complete rifle stamped with british proof marks and BSA and Made in England in a nice straight comb sporter stock...30-06. Has a BSA buttplate on it, the 3 arrows logo in 30-06 24" barrel

Also have a complete rifle, Remington; marked Model 30 and Express and a 6XXX serial number on the left receiver ring in three lines, and the big Remington script on the right side with Remington underlined and trade mark stamped underneath it. Lug on barrel which is marked at rear 30 Springfield top line over 1906 underneath it.
Barrel is stamped with the two line address: Remington Arms Company, Inc., successor to the Remington
Remington Ilion Works, Ilion, N. Y. U.S.A.
Drilled and tapped for receiver sight on right side. I think this may have been an "L", "R",or "M" model, since it has the barrel band front sight, which is not stamped with an initial.

Remington 1917 108,XXX serial number. Issue barrel 30-06 cut to 24" drilled and tapped, no bottom metal, but trigger is there.

The next entree: a factory original, un-monkeyed with, Model 30L Express two-line address on receiver left side and serial number 28,xxx. As a model 30L, it has the factory Lyman receiver sight on the right side, and Lyman marked barrel band front sight. Has sling swivel holes in forend and buttstock, which I am told was factory.
24" barreled 30-06 with very good bore.

I had told someone of the find a week ago and offered him first chance. If he does not come thorugh I will be selling a couple of these rifles, hopefully to AR regulars...since I know they will go to good homes.

Rich

Joe DuBiel worked a while for Hoffman Arms before opening shop for himself. So there is a strong connection between Hoffman/DuBiel/G&H. DuBiel made his own rifles for many years; they show up in older issues of Gun Digest in the custom gun section. IIRC, he made a proprietary action for his all-out custom rifles. His shop was in Ardmore Oklahoma on and off; I think it was back there the last iteration before he died.

Just to set the record straight, the Seifried article I was thinking of was the 280 Ross and was published in Rifle magazine. The case is a large base, straight taper, but not the same as the 404 Jeff. Sorry to have gotten so many facts wrong.

The one bit I did get right was that Keith used one on pronghorn. His bio “Hell I was There†shows Keith and sometimes Lorrain with his 280 Duibel and pronghorn in about half a dozen photos through the early to mid 30’s. I cant tell for sure from the pictures, but it looks to be built on a Mauser action.

Hey Fergus,

we are all students here, and an in-error answer usually brings the correct one the same day, and we all benefit. The only wrong answer is one somebody knowingly brings to the table and then refuses to admit to the mistaken assumption when given the correct answer.

Regards,

Rich

Keith's rifle was on a magnum Mauser action. Once caution about both the .280 Dubiel (full length belted case) and the .276 Dubiel ('06 length belted case) is - I think - that some of them took Ross diameter bullets which are not the same as a standard 7mm.