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Have a lead on a Rem KS mountain rifle in the big 8. Just looking for anybody who still shoots this caliber that would like to offer some insight! Little worried about the recoil as the rifle is QUITE light at 7lbs. Would plan on a holland radial or kdf brake and a limb saver. Not recoil shy as I shoot plenty of .416's and bigger but the rounds with the fast recoil velocity tear me up. Hoping I can tame it without affecting be its weight or balance.


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Posts: 1259 | Location: Colusa CA U.S.A. | Registered: 27 June 2001Reply With Quote
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Hey Man, a dream gun of mine!

Were it me I'd pass on the break, go with a mercury recoil reducer and good pad, shoot tsx's and maybe hang a 4x14 scope on it.
 
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One of Craig Boddington's favorites. At 7 lbs I would pass. Eeker
 
Posts: 75 | Location: Maine | Registered: 04 March 2010Reply With Quote
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Off a bench, recoil is stout and fast, off hand you don't notice it. It's not much different to the 7STW.
If you bench shoot a fair bit, I would recommend a Pachmeyer Decelerator, far better than a limb saver, IMHO.
I have never built one for myself, but have for customers, test fired every one of those and they weren't enjoyable with factory loads.

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Posts: 684 | Location: N E Victoria, Australia. | Registered: 26 February 2009Reply With Quote
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I have toyed with the idea of building one several times and have a Rem. 700 donor action but just cant quite bring myself to do it. When I look at the loads in the manuals I just cant see what I really gain over my two 300 Weatherbys.
 
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Not quite what you are asking about, but my son managed to shoot a a borrowed rifle in 325WSM with a 200gn bullet quite accurately when he was 8. He now has a 325WSM A Bolt of his own with a Terminator T3 brake on it and it is very manageable for him to shoot.

Rifle weight would not be significantly more than what you are looking at in your Rem KS. I realise the 8mm Rem is still a step up in recoil from the 325WSM, but I would think if an 8 year old can handle the WSM then an adult should be fine with its big brother.

 
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Bought one in the spring figuring it would be the ultimate elk rifle. Spent the summer developing loads, etc. Built a stand-up bench to shoot it from.
By fall, I had determined that I didn't dislike elk that much and sent it down the road.
One funny aside, I bought it used at a local gun shop. As I closed the deal, the shop keeper mentioned that it came with a partial box of ammo. He handed me a box of ammo with 4 rounds missing.


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Posts: 4348 | Location: middle tenn | Registered: 09 December 2009Reply With Quote
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JR, I can't believe that one hasn't sold. I've been watching it as well. The 8mm Rem Mag was a commercial dud when introduced, but just like the 260 and the 280, years later people realized what it could do. Hell, it spawned the Ultra-Mag calibers and most of Kenny Jarrett's cartridge line-up.
 
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JR, I can't believe that one hasn't sold. I've been watching it as well.


Ok Biebs, I call B.S.

I'm pretty sure Blowser doesn't make an 8mm Rem Mag barrel! How can YOU possibly be watching it? Smiler

Seriously though. The 8mm 200 gr bullet is a helluva thing. Anything this side of the Big Five would be well advised to run far, far, FAR away.

The recoil will be stout. Heck, my 6.5# 7mm RM is rather sharp on a good day and downright nasty otherwise. Still, I've never felt the recoil in the field which begs the question: what do you intend to do with it anyway?

Put it in a lead sled, find a proper load, call it good and fire for effect. You won't feel the recoil anyway.


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Hell, it spawned the Ultra-Mag calibers .



Not correct. The RUMs are a completely different case to the 8mm Rem Mag.
 
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I did one for a client a short time ago. He called and asked if I could put a muzzle brake on it; too sharp in the recoil department.


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Been interested in this round a couple times, but passed. I do know a dealer who has a very nice Remm 700 for sale...... Plays I know of a shape that has about 20 boxes of Remington factory ammo for sale.

If anyone is interested.


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Thanks everyone. More than likely the rifle will be packed around the canyons looking for hogs when I don't feel like hauling one of the big bores.

Hiker bum.......care to share which gunshop? Might they have a website? Feel like running an "errand"? Lol


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Posts: 1259 | Location: Colusa CA U.S.A. | Registered: 27 June 2001Reply With Quote
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I have no experience with one, but its ballistics say its one heck of a nice round with a 220 gr. Nosler..

I would prefer the .338 Win. or the .300 Win. mag myself as the 8mm is moribound for sure.


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I have a Remington 700 Classic in 8mm mag. The recoil is sharp and fast. I finally tamed it by using a Past pad,mounting a Pachmeyer deceleration pad and ear plugs for the muzzle blast. The big 8 is devastating on any game short of the pachyderms. I used it in Namibia and will use it again when I return to Africa. I have always used Swift A-frames and handloaded 220 grain bullets at about 2900 fps. With proper bullet placement,game dies quickly and humanely. It is a far under rated cartridge and should have been more successful. Jerry Hoover
 
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If you want a lightweight rifle in 8mm purchase a .325 WSM Kimber Montana. I like mine. It does remind you that you are shooting it!
 
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I had one years ago. It was a wood stocked version from the Custom Shop with the heavy barrel.

I kept it for one elk season. That was without a doubt the nastiest kicking rifle I have ever shot. 20 rounds at the range literally left a scab on my shoulder.
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I have to wonder about the recoil. Rumors of this rounds nasty setback are rampant yet if you look at the numbers and compare them with other .33's in rifles of like weight and style it shouldn't be any worse than a heavy .30 or a .338 win mag....... I know those early BDL's weren't that great at handling recoil and the pads definately left something to be desired but can it really be that bad? I had an old FN stocked in maple. Whippy barrel and all done up weatherby style with a narrow butt in .300 win and while snappy was not too terrible. I just can't imagine this thing being a terror.


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I've shot all 5 that I have built for customers, the lightest of which was on a 700 KS, it was sharper than my 300WM, 338WM and 340Weatherby, with lighter bullets in the 8mm.
The same as a 378 Weatherby, a LOT more and sharper recoil than my 375 Weatherby when unbraked.

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A co-worker hunted our Alaskan moose with an M700 in 8mm Mag handloaded with 200-grain Nosler Partitions. I shot it several times and the recoil was much more unpleasant than my .338 WM loaded with 250-grain Partitions. Don't know why, may have been a higher muzzle pressure. Higher muzzle pressure means higher gas velocity thus more recoil. It burned more powder too, so more recoil from that. Just guesses though...


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Sounds great. Lol. Well we'll just have to see. Bought the rifle. Just shy of 7 pounds. Hoping she'll be around 8 all done up. I'd really like to keep with the flyweight mtn rifle theme but I don't think this will be the project to try to pare away every single ounce. Rem stocks fit me well and with a good pad and brake (I know I know) I pray it will be tolerable. Not sure what to go with as far as glass. I have a 6x42 Schmidt and bender classic but the eye relief leaves something to be desired. I def don't need a half moon scar from this one. I know I can get more eye relief from some of the lower power (dangerous game scopes) ie... Vx3 1.5-5 and such but I think this one justifies a bit more magnification. Open to suggestion?


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I would definitely like to have one some day.

I'm thinking for me, lh Remington or Winchester action, Dakota would be good too,24" barrel, composite stock made by McMillan or others, mercury reducer in the butt and maybe fore end also, good pad, and a Leopold 4-14 scope in solid rings. Rifle un scoped and empty would be something like 8, no more than 9#'s, nothing I mind carrying around here.

One of these days I'd like to take a longer range poke at a bear or moose or caribou. Recently our friend here on AR Ken Cline sold me a 330 Dakota I thought I'd bore to a .423, but I'm having second thoughts about changing the rifle.

I think that 8 mag is neat!
 
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Sounds great. Lol. Well we'll just have to see. Bought the rifle. Just shy of 7 pounds. Hoping she'll be around 8 all done up. I'd really like to keep with the flyweight mtn rifle theme but I don't think this will be the project to try to pare away every single ounce. Rem stocks fit me well and with a good pad and brake (I know I know) I pray it will be tolerable. Not sure what to go with as far as glass. I have a 6x42 Schmidt and bender classic but the eye relief leaves something to be desired. I def don't need a half moon scar from this one. I know I can get more eye relief from some of the lower power (dangerous game scopes) ie... Vx3 1.5-5 and such but I think this one justifies a bit more magnification. Open to suggestion?


Are you kidding! That rifle begs for a long range scope, not something dg like a 1.5-5!

Got any ducks down around your way this year?
 
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Ducks are hit or miss. It's cold for us but no real weather to speak of yet. Lots of birds up north that don't wanna move is the rumor. Tons of geese. Especially snows (sky carp) like usual.


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I bought one when they were first announced in spring of 1978. I was just waiting for summer school before I moved out here to Idaho. I shot it for a couple years, recoil was not bad after I got a one-inch decelerator on it and a mercury recoil reducer in the butt stock.

I ended up rebarreling it in 458 Lott, and having it properly restocked.

Sold it after I was seduced by the Dark (CRF) Side about 1983.

If Nosler made about a 250gr Partition and a solid it would be the perfect rifle other than the Big Three.
 
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Ducks are hit or miss. It's cold for us but no real weather to speak of yet. Lots of birds up north that don't wanna move is the rumor. Tons of geese. Especially snows (sky carp) like usual.


Babe, (my girl lab,) and I have been trying to get in on a good snow goose hunt for ten years or so and mostly still haven't. Tried in N.D. three or four times, struck out. Had one maybe two in Sask but that's been 9 years ago. Its not that we've been missing out on much, Babe's been getting mouth full's of mallards, sprig and pheasants, some good speck's and honkers too, but no snows in a long time. Man, all I wanna do is dump a snow or two at a time in a grain field, wait a moment or two and then send Babe after one, then the other, do it again and again.

You use that 8mag on an elk, caribou or moose, you'll likely never recover a bullet. Friend of mine used one here one year on a nice 60+" bull moose and it capitulated in place.
 
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While guiding for Cinder River Lodge there'd be years when most of the hunters where from a particular club or organization. 1 spring Pnnsulvanians filled the camp and at least 3 or 4 8mm mag, must have had the same fellow do all the loading as they all had Barnes Original 250gr. I was with 1 of the fellow and he poleaxed his brown bear and all others tagged out as well, it was a deadly combo for sure!

My most recent 8mm experience was in the Wrangells, this fellow was using 170gr Sierra's and the shot was facing us. Pieces of sheep rocketed out the stern and the internal destruction was mind boggling. I've seen it before with Sierra's but this sheep was a mess!


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I have two very similar rifles of equivalent power. One is an 8mm RM and the other is a 340 Wby. Both built on Rem 700 actions, both with 26" bbls. No brakes. I find them both very similar in recoil. FWIW. - dan


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Years ago I inherited an * Mag from my dad...a custom rifle built on a Mauser action. With scope, it weighed just under 9 lbs. I didn't think there was much difference in recoil between it and my 9.3 x62...but it sure can reach out with authority.
 
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I shot a 300 Jarret, 338 win and a 340 WBY a good bit...recoil while stiff, was very manageable--and I don't like recoil. The 8 mag does great things--anytime you can push a 220 grain + bullet almost 3000 fps...big things die.

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At a local Ranch Feed and Hardware store today I spotted several boxes of Nosler brass on the shelf in 8mm Mag. Got me to thinking if I didn't already have a .338 Win Mag I'd think about building it.
 
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Build it anyways.


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It just boils down to ones recoil tolerance, one mans junk is another mans treasure..I have frinds who tell me the 505 is the jewel of big bores, I find it abusive, heavy and ugly! and have never found the 416 Rem. or 404 Jefferys to be lacking...Same with the 8mm magnum when you start that comparing stuff.


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Have a lead on a Rem KS mountain rifle in the big 8. Just looking for anybody who still shoots this caliber that would like to offer some insight! Little worried about the recoil as the rifle is QUITE light at 7lbs. Would plan on a holland radial or kdf brake and a limb saver. Not recoil shy as I shoot plenty of .416's and bigger but the rounds with the fast recoil velocity tear me up. Hoping I can tame it without affecting be its weight or balance.


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