seen a couple of 22-250s for sale a few bucks cheaper than ordinary 308s,7-08s 243s etc just wanting to know are the actions for 22-250s the same as the ones they use for 308s? i know the 22-250 is a 308 based case but its a little shorter. just wanting to know if the used a different action

talking remington 700actions here

The 308 action (Rem Short Action) is ideal for the 22-250.

The 22-250 is based on the 250 savage case, hence the 250 in 22-250. It uses the same action length and head size as the 308 case though.

That 22-250 round has sure endured for a long time. It's popularity seems to be as high today as it was 50 years ago. I believe it started out in the 1930's as the 22 Varminter.

Don

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i know the 22-250 is a 308 based case but its a little shorter.

Well this is before coffee but the actually they are both 06 based.

If my memory is working when Nato was looking for a new short 30cal round Winchester took the old 300Savage and made it a touch longer with 20deg vs 30 deg shoulder to make the 308.Then nato tweeked it and became the 7.62. The 250-3000 was based on Newtons shortened 06 moving a 25 cal at the then unheard of 3000fps brought out around 1915. The 3000 was later dropped and left 250Savage. Then necked to 22 it became the 22-250.

The 300 Savage came out in around 1921. I have no info but it looks to me like a blown out 250case

So really, they are all based on the 7.9x57 of 1888 (who before that?). Nothing much new, just a little longer or a little shorter.

while the 22-250 and .308 share the same action length (short) and same bolt face I believe you may need a different follower and magazine box for proper functioning (feeding).....depending on which action you use.

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djpepper: So really, they are all based on the 7.9x57 of 1888 (who before that?). Nothing much new, just a little longer or a little shorter.

Pretty much so. The 8x57 will still cover just about all bases.

the 22-250 is a rem 700. a bdl i believe. i was considering rebarreling it to 7mm-08.

vapodog, do you know if it will need a different follwer and magazine box?

I think the .22-250 action, although identical to the .308 action, uses a magazine block in the rear and a shorter follower (at least it does in many "medium" length actions). If this is the case, you only need to throw away the magazine block and insert a regular follower to use the action for any of the .308-based or similar cartridges. The actual magazine box should be the same.

Yes, it's a slightly shorter cartridge than a 308, but in Remington 700 actions there are only two lengths, Long and short.

The "long" covers the 30-06 family, the various "classic magnums" (from264win through 375H&H) as well as the various Ultra Mags.
The Short Rem700 covers everything from the 17Rem, 223rem through 380 as a short action
and the various WSM's and SAUM cartridges.

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Originally posted by DMB:
That 22-250 round has sure endured for a long time. It's popularity seems to be as high today as it was 50 years ago. I believe it started out in the 1930's as the 22 Varminter.

Don

Actually the "original" cartridge was the
250-3000Savage introduced in 1915, the cartridge was necked up to 30cal introduced ~1921 to create the 300Savage.
The 22-250Rem was created from any of several
popular wildcats based on the 250Sav necked down to 224, weather it is a .22Varminter, a 220Wotkins

Stonecreek, you are right,
The only difference in the varous cartridges is the length of the spacer at the back of the magazine box and the length of the follower.

Magnum Vs Non-Magnum is mostly a difference in barrel taper and of course the bolt face for
different cartridge families.

I just wonder what people are going to do with the short action, magnum bolt face WSM/SAUM actions in years to come.... as they are only practical to convert to other WSM/SAUM cartridges as frequently a replacement bolt costs more than the donor action.

But back to the original question....
Since the 22-250 uses the same .473 cartridge head as the 7mm-08 you are good to go...

So if you are looking at a used Remington in 22-250 as a candidate for a 7mm-08 custom build up the only thing you'll have to replace other than the barrel is the magazine box (or remove the spacer) and a new magazine follower.

AD

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Originally posted by Paul from nz:
the 22-250 is a rem 700. a bdl i believe. i was considering rebarreling it to 7mm-08.

vapodog, do you know if it will need a different follwer and magazine box?

I bought a Rem 700 in 22-250 back in November and installed a 7mm08 barrel on it and the follower and mag box work just perfect.

I bought a savage 110 (long action) in 243 and after I shot the barrel out of it, I converted it to 22.250, using the same magazine and follower with no issues.

It's being converted back to 243 and I'm converting a Savage model 11 from 300 WSM to 22.250 (changing the bolthead also) and I'm going with a single shot follower as I don't really need a magazine on a varmint gun.

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Originally posted by Dwight:

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Originally posted by Paul from nz:
the 22-250 is a rem 700. a bdl i believe. i was considering rebarreling it to 7mm-08.

vapodog, do you know if it will need a different follwer and magazine box?

I bought a Rem 700 in 22-250 back in November and installed a 7mm08 barrel on it and the follower and mag box work just perfect.

thats good to hear! i was either going to go for a 7mm08 or maybe a 284. if i go for the 284 it'll probably need some work to load properly etc.

might even get all excited and get the action trued... some of you might remember me talking about getting a 284 done a month or 3 back, but im still trying to get an action for a reasonable price! i dont really want to pay 70%+ of the cost of a new remington sps just for the action.