looking to buy an T/C venture or savage 11/111 trophy hunter XP combo.. in 308 win.
your thoughts..

cool.

I like the tc more but the savages are obviously good rifles

wl

I would buy whichever is cheaper. The only rifle I ever had in 308 that would not shoot was a Kimber.

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Originally posted by just-a-hunter:
You have picked two very boring rifles in the most boring caliber ever.

Either one will probably shoot boringly great and boringly kill anything you point it at with zero drama.....

Todd

Also boreingly available bullets and brass for boreingly reasonable prices.

boring..? really.. I have shot the .308 for many many years. I find it a great round.. still one of the top selling rounds/rifles/ and reloading die today. still one of the top long range rounds out there. still used by the military. boring?... this is going to a friend that don't have a lot of money. both of these rifles are good shooters. they may not be Winchester 70s or the rem 700 But a .308 being boring.. never.... and yes it will be a .308

The 308 is a very under-appreciated round. Does just about whatever is needed in 95% of hunting situations.

After 15000+ rounds down range, I get the boring aspect of it. I needed to switch to something different that I couldn't hit with out to 1000 yds with boringly predictable results.

You can't go wrong with either rifle. Or look for a clean Rem 788 for cheap thrills.
Here's hoping you enjoy your .308 for all that it is.

I just recently bought my 2nd Savage. I choose the new 16 Lightweight in 308. Did a rattle can paint job and added a bigger bolt handle.



Weighs 5.5 lbs naked and a little less than 7 with a 3-10 Weaver Grand Slam Tactical I had laying around. I wanted a light weight 308 mountain rifle.



I tried to bore sight at the 100 yard lane at the range a burned through too much ammo getting on paper and then sighted. Luckily I had some Mag Tip reloads that worked well in my 77 RSI. 3 shots one hole with this load. Now I need to find load that uses a bullet with a better ballistic coefficient. My other Savage is a 223 Precision Carbine and it shoots lights out.





Savage is not very pretty but for this one I wanted an super lightweight that I could drag around a mountain and not worry about it getting roughed up. I want to do a free range Aoudad sheep in the Davis mountains in the next 2 years.

very nice.. and good shooting. thanks for the photos. I also load RL-15 and IMR 4064 sometimes in our 308's but not quite that hot..

Nice looking work there.

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Originally posted by vines:
very nice.. and good shooting. thanks for the photos. I also load RL-15 and IMR 4064 sometimes in our 308's but not quite that hot..

I was a little shocked it was that hot. Speer #13 shows a max charge of 49 with Reloader 15. I was 2 grains under max.

With 47 grs. of RL-15 you should be getting over 2900 FPS based on the 308s I have owned over the years or the one I have now..

My all time .308 Win. Load has been 48 grs. of WW-748 in my Savage 99 for a bit over 2800 FPS or 48.5 of same in a bolt action for something over 2900 FPS, good .308 powder and you get a little less pressure it seems at least in my guns it has..also very accurate, the Savage 99 shoots an inch as a rule and many time a little better than an inch (3 shot groups )...Some condem 3 shot groups for accuracy testing, but I'm strictly a hunter, and never shoot more than 3 and try like hell for one shot, so it works for me.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
With 47 grs. of RL-15 you should be getting over 2900 FPS based on the 308s I have owned over the years or the one I have now..

I probably forgot to mention it has a 20" barrel so I guess 2875 seems about right based on your experience. I generally shoot 3 shot groups because It's always hot in Texas and barrels heat up fast, especially a pencil barrel like on this rifle.

Scott, nice lightweight piece and great shooter. As you research Aoudad oufitters, let me know what you find out. I have one mounted now, but want to hunt for a true trophy.