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I did buy a Ruger Hawkeye in .358 on impulse. It is a very trim well fitting rifle. It;s still in the box ! I pulled out my 99a,blr and rebored Win 88 and can"t figure why I bought it. Don"t need it probably trade for another Hawkeye in .243 Rhis Ryuger is a really nice rifle. | |||
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well folks.....this is now a two year old thread.....I wonder just how many .358 afficiandos actually went out and purchased a factory .358 Winchester..... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I just bought a .358 in a BLR. | |||
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Nah ... I already had one ... but that may change yet!!  Bought an old 35Whelen on Saturday to join the 358Win and 350RemMag ... might just end up buying a Ruger Hawkeye S/S in 358Win depending on finances purely for a wildcat rechambering job.Cheers... Con | |||
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A Sako Finnlight or Kimber 84M would be a NICE compact light carbine in 358...... The Ruger platform might as well be a 350 RM IMHO. Not a bad set up I might add having owned one, liking the Hawkeye triggers, but prefer the older style SS finish. A fine matte finish would be more to my liking over both. Another nice option would have been the M70 Compact in 358 or 338/308 Winchester  Those calibers would be a top choice in the mannlicher stocked 'Ultra Light' carbine from the custom shop should that gun ever be produced in standard production and a price in line..... | |||
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My Ruger chambered in .358 arrives at my local gun store today. I waited until the Hawkeye was available with a wood stock. I just have a thing about wood. I still have my BLR in the safe. | |||
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With all due respect folks.....the .358 arrives at 500 yards with 1027 ft-lb of energy......and a lot of folks consider this the minimum for even deer let alone moose or elk. A .308 with 180 grain bullets can arrive at 500 yards with 25% greater energy and a flatter trajetory.....that is for folks that can shoot that far with confidence..... At least for me it's purely academic because it's beyond my abilities.....I'm a 400 yard max guy! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Does this mean I can pull out my 1957 vintage Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbine and start shooting it again? Will factory ammo still be available? (Okay, I'll try to find my dies too) Have you looked at the price of a box of W-W factory ammo lately? YIKES! Whatever anyone says, a .358 WCF is tough medicine on any North American game from Whitetail to Moose. LLS | |||
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I sold my steel frame BLR this spring for a great amount of money but as I had just finished a 19 inch barreled 35 Whelen I still had a nice handy thumper. Yesterday I pulled all the bullets I had loaded in my 358 cases and noted that the ones loaded with Win. 748 had the powder charges compressed to almost a solid. I had to straighten a paper clip and use it to break up the powder so it would pour out. I feel 3031 is a better powder for those using short action rifles. However I picked up Mauser 24/47 at a gun show, ordered a Timney trigger and Bueller style safety for it and am looking around for a light contour blank for it. My real snivel on the early BLR was the box magazine, I hate them and the one on the early BLR is more objectionable than most. Neither did I like the add on cheek piece necessary to look thru the scope properly. I can justify having a 358 and a 35 Whelen by using bullets up to 225 grains in the 358 and all heavier projectiles in the Whelen, Right? I don't really care if a company starts making fancy ammo for the 358 either but I would like to see a greater variety of pointed 225 grain bullets, possibly shorter versions of Hornady and Speer 250 grain bullets. Leftists are intellectually vacant, but there is no greater pleasure than tormenting the irrational. | |||
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Saw one,pickedxc it up, brought it home ! What a handsome and great feeling rifle. I also found a powder that boostes it's vel without any increase in pressure TAC. Buds Guns in Paris Kentuckey has every make and model at great prices. Look on GunBroker for a telephone no. | |||
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rickt300, IMR's 3031 is the perfect powder for 200 gr bullets in the .358W. I have loaded it since 1968. These days I use RL 10 in the .358's with 180 gr bullets. I don't like ball powders in rifle loads and I have seen a keg of it here. Thank goodness its used up. Kimber said they would chamber the .358 Win. if factory ammo were made. Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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The Ruger Hawkeye in .358 Win is 1 in 12" twist. | |||
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Anyone who shoots 500 yars with a .358 or anything else is a damm fool.(learn how to hunt) Look in the August09 issue of handloader and there are some fine loads in there. Then Read Paco Kelly's comments on the .358 at sixgunner.com | |||
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Ruger put out a few models in 358, the standard M77 and Frontier. Problem is, still no factory ammo. The 358 is a round for reloaders. I figured when I saw adds for the frontier Hornady would be soon following up with ammo, still hasnt happened. Without at least a FEW good factory ammo choices, nothing is ever going to happen with these rifles, and I'm sure many will end up collecting dust. Especialy since Ruger also chambers the 338 Federal in a few rifles, and the Fed has several factory loadings from semi-vanilla (fusions) to premium loads If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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I found four boxes of Winchester 200 gr .358 Win. factory loads today at: Autumn Gun Works 515 Old Middle St Goshen, CT 06756 (860) 491-4867 The price ea. is about $31 which seems very good. Better call now as I think he is closed Sunday, Monday and maybe Tuesday. Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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358 Winchester articles. http://gunblast.com/Browning-BLR358.htm http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/358_wcf.htm http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satellite/IMO_GA/Story_C/The+Great+.358 http://www.gunweek.com/2003/feature0301.html Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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I guess that is a good price as I was at Wally World last night and plain vanilla Remington .300 Savage was $30.97 but, .250 Savage was only 29.97!  | |||
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I bought one 3 weeks ago from Buds Guns in Ky. It fits me like a glove, the bbl on mine is free floated but I haven"t shot it yet. I'm waiting on a scope. Also discovered the august issue of Handloader mag. with an article on the .338 vers .358 both guns were tested with TAC powder and in a 22" bbl you could get a little over 2400 with a .250 bullet. I get 2360 from my blr with 748. It's a real thumper on black bear moose and elk up to 300 yds. | |||
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