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First Left-Hand Winchester Model 70s ??? Allen Day?
16 March 2005, 09:49
CanadianLeftyFirst Left-Hand Winchester Model 70s ??? Allen Day?
I am doing a bit of research for myself and I would like to know:
1.When did Winchester first introduced Model 70s in left hand?
2. When did Winchester first introduced Model 70s in left hand and Stainless Steel? (I saw onl one reference to it in 1997?).
Thanks
17 March 2005, 22:23
CanadianLeftyI just receied the Complete Guide To Classic Rifles book- no anwers there either- th book is very superficial.
Anyone have any info or sources to share with me?
17 March 2005, 22:43
RopesHave you emailed Winchester? I would try that or look for a Winchester Collectors site, there must be one some where..
18 March 2005, 02:20
jbmich1997 is the first time either one showed up in their catalog. That's also the year I bought my left handed stainless classic (stainless & walnut) in 338
18 March 2005, 02:32
GeorgeSCL,
I got my first LH M-70, a .375H&H in May or June of 1997, after waiting about six months.
IIRC, the LH SS/walnut models came out in 1998, but I didn't get mine until 1999.
George
18 March 2005, 03:01
CanadianLeftyThanks guys!
Ropes- I have not e-mailed Winchester- if they have an e-mail, I will do it tonight.
jbmich- Hmmm...I read the same thing in Blue Book of Gun Values- only listing is in 1997.
GeorgeS- Seems to all tie together. Thanks a bunch.
Well, I guess that eliminates any Pre-64 Lefties or more vintage Model 70s from my dreamlist
18 March 2005, 03:05
Looniequote:
Well, I guess that eliminates any Pre-64 Lefties or more vintage Model 70s from my dreamlist
That is not necessarily true. I have heard of or read where some gunsmiths "converted" actions such as the Pre-64 M70 and the Springfield actions to left hand. IIRC Boddington had one - showed a pic in an article he did on southpaw rifles.
You
may find one of those but I am gonna guess they ain't cheap.
18 March 2005, 03:12
GeorgeSThere are no pre-'64 'factory' lefties; any conversions done on pre-'64s (like CTB's) will eject on the right-hand side, so they are like the Rem. 788s, not a true LH action. The same with Sedgely's Springfield conversions.
Were you looking for something in particular?
George
18 March 2005, 03:19
LoonieI know they aren't factory but I do wish I could find that article - was interesting (I'm a righty).
Curious tho - I hae never been nor will ever go hunting anything much over local whitetail, is there a disadvantage to having a "LH" action that spits them to the right? I am trying to think of one if it were reversed and can not think of one (for me)
18 March 2005, 03:41
CanadianLeftyGeorgeS, not looking for anything in particular-but I put the word out, locally, that I am interested in buying left-handed Model 70 rifles and I have received a couple calls on some older, very well worn stuff that apparently dates back to the 50s or 60s- That got my attention.
I would have wanted something like that in very good condition, but these are probably old but very worn 'converted' rifles as Loonie described- not my cup of tea.
Best regards,
CL
Loonie- the potential disadvantage that I see is that you are ejecting a fired shell or live round across your right eye and line of sight. This may lead to possible eye damage or loss of target after firing first shot- also not my cup of tea.
18 March 2005, 06:51
GeorgeSLoonie,
While a LBRP (left bolt, right port) action might work well for BR, it's not all that good for field shooting, and loading the magazine.
George
I bought my lefty .270 in 1998. A Classic Sporter. I'm pretty sure that was the last year before the Classic Sporter LT with its "David Miller" stock.
RSY
The real work of men was hunting meat. The invention of agriculture was a giant step in the wrong direction, leading to serfdom, cities, and empire. From a race of hunters, artists, warriors, and tamers of horses, we degraded ourselves to what we are now: clerks, functionaries, laborers, entertainers, processors of information. - Edward Abbey
18 March 2005, 19:10
Fjoldquote:
Originally posted by Loonie:
I know they aren't factory but I do wish I could find that article - was interesting (I'm a righty).
Curious tho - I hae never been nor will ever go hunting anything much over local whitetail, is there a disadvantage to having a "LH" action that spits them to the right? I am trying to think of one if it were reversed and can not think of one (for me)
I actually like my 788 with the right hand eject and left hand bolt. Off the bench it is extremely handy and it has a detachable magazine so it doesn't hurt you in the field. Dropping a round on top of the follower isn't hard to do with either hand.
Frank
"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite
19 March 2005, 01:32
SnowwolfeI bought my LH stainless in 300 win mag in 1997 at Walmart. It is for sell. $575
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
19 March 2005, 07:22
Iron BuckMy LH M70 walnut & stainles has the BOSS. It is a 30-06. I think mine is a 1998 gun. I hate the look of the BOSS & it is loud as hell but boy does it work! I get 1/2" (3) shot groups @ 100 yards with it on a regular basis.......so I live with the ugliness & noise
19 March 2005, 14:25
CanadianLeftySnowwolfe, your P.M. isn't activated- please P.M. me your e-mail or Ph.#
Thanks
19 March 2005, 23:16
SnowwolfeNot sure I know how to activate my pm.lol But my email is snowwolfe@gci.net
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
22 March 2005, 01:56
TetachuckI bought a LH .338 Win Mag on special last year.I think that perhaps the.338 has been discontinued??
Cheers
Allan
22 March 2005, 05:42
SnowwolfeMaybe. Winchester still produces a LH 375. But they stopped making all lefthanded stainless. Remington now only offers LH stainless from their custom shop. Sad times for us southpaws.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.