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My wife has completely taken over my Model 57 S&W. I've been loading 200 gr Rem HP over 9.5 grs of Unique. I've not chrono'd that load yet but plan to. There aren't many factory loads out there but which would be the best for deer. She's determined to use it next fall and her groups are getting smaller. Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | ||
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The best bullet I found for mine was the Cast Performance 250 gr wide flatnose, with or without gas checks. I bought so many a long time ago I don't know how they come today but they probably still sell that weight. You can load it up to about 1300 fps and shoot clean through deer and hogs from less than ideal angles. I loaded most of mine over WW296 but I bet Li'l Gun is a good choice today. If you want a factory round I'd check with Buffalo Bore. They have a 230 gr and a 265 gr hard-cast hunting load for sale in boxes of 20 or 50. Not cheap but darn good for the purpose. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I've run Beartooth Bullet 265gr. Long Nosed-Wide Meplat flat nosed gas checks over 15.5gr. over 2400 powder. Stout, but will do the trick. I haven't chronoe'd it yet but expect to see around 1,050 in a 4" bbl Smith 357PD airweight with a 4" bbl. Probably closer to 1150-1200 in an 8" bbl. Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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I think the Beartooth bullet is what Buffalo loads but to 1350. It has a longer nose that the Cast performance that I shoot. Either should penetrate as well as ever needed. Once upon a time we had several magnum handguns at the camp and decided to do some spur of the moment testing. IIRC, the guns were my .41 250 gr at 1300, a .44 with 300 gr Cast Performance bullets at 1300 fps, my 500 Linebaugh with 440 grain Cast Performance bullets at 1400 fps, a Desert Eagle 50 AE with factory ammo and a 357 with 180 gr hard cast bullets. Don't remember the 357 specs but the loads were hot. Short story: the .41 out penetrated everything else by a considerable margin in lose South Texas sand. A sample of one but it sold me on the caliber. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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If you want to have her shoot a load that will get the job done with the lowest possible recoil. Try a 200 to 220 gr bullet with 9 to 10 gr of Unique. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have found that deer, as a general rule, die very easily. They do not require special bullets. That said, I load any 210 grain jacketed bullet over 20.2 grains of H110 and just go hunting. I have never had a deer take more than a couple steps with this load from any of my 41s. I generally use 210 XTPs. I have also had good results with plain old PMC 210 factory loadings. Now if we talk bear or pigs, different story. I will go hard cast for them. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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This echoes my thoughts, too. Deer aren't armor-plated. I use either the Sierra 170grJHC for the little deer around here or a 210grJHP that's the cheapest for bigger deer. I got a really good deal on 1000 Remington 200gr.JHPs so I'll be sighting these in on one of my .41Magnums for this year's deer season. JOE MACK aka The .41FAN HAVE MORE FUN AND GET THE JOB DONE WITH A .41 I am the punishment of God… If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you. (GENGHIS KHAN) | |||
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Rich, I've found the 210 gr SP Remington factory load to be very, very effective on larger deer. Have also used a 220 gr Keith cast from an H&G mold lubed with Carnauba Red to good effect. I generally drive them with H110 as fast as they'll go Of the two, the Remington factory load is better. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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I own ten 41s, and given the choice of one load and one load only, it would be the Lyman 410459 in front of 21 grains of IMR 4227. A very accurate load, and one that recoils surprisingly softly for the velocity it gives. There may be a few grains of partially burned powder in the cases, but this is an incredible load, as far as I am concerned. | |||
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Thanks everyone. Sounds like I may not be too far off with the load she's practicing with. 9.5 gr Uniique and the 200 Grain Remington JHP. Some of those loads mentioned would undoubtably kill deer but they sound like wrist breakers too and I don't want to discourage her. Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | |||
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Rich, I was thinking the exact thing. I have shot a few 41s and is what I use now. Substituting Universal Clays, I found it is cleaner burning and better metered in a powder measure. I drop the charge by 1.5gr IIRC, but check the book. If you are getting 1000-1100 fps, it should kill deer fine to 50 yds or so, and not punish the shooter, hand or ears. I'd say 8 grains ought to duplicate your load, another 1-2 would bump up your speed a bit. Again, check the book if you go with UC. I'll never use Unique now that I found UC...FWIW Good luck, your right on, as shot placement will yield success | |||
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I'm in agreement with the guys above that a whitetail is not tough to drop and doesn't need anything hard kicking in .41 Mag. I've used for several years with success Cor-Bon's 210 JHP @ 1350 fps / 850 ft lbs in an 8 3/8" Model 57. Deer generally only travel about 18" farther - straight down. They also make a 250 hard cast which I rate as overkill for deer. The .41 C-B personal defense load of 170 grains has I think about the same recoil as a 45 acp and would probably be fine at close range on deer for those who might be recoil sensitive. | |||
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The 41 certainly will penetratate all out of proportion. _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I have found that the same can be said for the .475 Linebaugh....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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If she shoots them well go for it.I have found my blackhawk and my marlin41 mag likes the 170 gr bullet better,with H-110.Good Luck | |||
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My experiences would dictate using either the 170gr Sierra's or the 200's your already shooting. My staple load uses the 200gr Rem over 20.5grs of 296 with Win primers, and just enough crimp to hold the bullet secure. Recoil isn't much in comparrison with other loads. Muzzle flash isn't bad either, something to consider when hunting. Out of the many hogs and one deer it has not let me down yet. It shoots very well with groups around 2" or less at 50yds common freehand and easily that from a rest. Good luck with your wife, I hope she get's her deer. She will be thrilled. Mike / Tx | |||
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The 200 grainers and a stiff dose of W-296 is an awsome combination for the 41 Mag. Free men should not be subjected to permits, paperwork and taxation in order to carry any firearm. NRA Benefactor | |||
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