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Handgun in camper
28 April 2017, 02:57
PhilRHandgun in camper
I'm driving from my home in NY to SC and will travel thru Pennsylvania, Virginia, N & S Carolina. Am I OK with a handgun on board ? I have a NY concealed carry permit.
Thanks.
Phil
Life Member- NRA & SCI
28 April 2017, 03:15
GatogordoI could look it up, but doesn't NY have a reciprocity list?
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28 April 2017, 07:03
Bwana1I don't know how you could travel to VA from PA without going thru Maryland and their crazy handgun laws.
28 April 2017, 07:51
OverlandGatogordo,
A NY permit does not allow one to carry in many other states because NY will not allow anyone from another state (regardless of permits/licenses) to carry/possess a handgun in NY.
What you can do in NY is get a pistol permit from other states. Utah and Florida are the big two as far as reciprocity. Here is the reciprocity map for a Florida permit:
http://www.youcancarry.com/florida-ccw-reciprocity/Here it is for a Utah permit:
http://www.youcancarry.com/utah-ccw-reciprocity/To receive a Utah and/or Florida permit, one must take the Utah or Florida class, then submit the application/payment. Utah and Florida permit classes are offered in NY, and are available frequently (at a cost).
Notice that neither Utah or Florida permits allow for carry/possession in PA or SC. It is fairly easy to get a PA permit. One simply needs a NY permit with no restrictions, then must drive to PA and fill out the application, submit payment, etc. Some counties in PA make this easy and some make it difficult if not impossible. Scranton is the surest bet for PhilR.
None of this solves the issue of SC not allowing carry with any of these three permits (four if we count NY). A permit is required in SC, and the only way to receive a SC permit is to be a resident, or a non-resident who owns property in SC.
There are several states that have reciprocity with SC, but SC only offers that reciprocity for residents of the issuing states. For example, a resident of Florida with a Florida permit may carry in SC. However, a resident of NY with a Florida permit may not carry in SC.
As I understand it, PhilR must leave his handgun at home unless he owns land in SC and gets a SC permit, as well as permits from several other states allowing him to drive through those states.
Nationwide reciprocity would be really, really nice!
" easy to get a PA permit " ???
AFAIK the present gov of PA changed that .All present holders will lose their present permit when it expires .That will screw me later this year !
28 April 2017, 16:42
PhilRThank you all for the input. Looks like the handgun stays home this time. Now I have to figure out how to drive to Montana for my annual hunting trip with my hunting handgun on board.
Phil
Life Member- NRA & SCI
28 April 2017, 17:00
p dog shooterUn load it lock in a box and travel under the firearm owners protection act.
28 April 2017, 19:31
Overlandquote:
Originally posted by mete:
" easy to get a PA permit " ???
AFAIK the present gov of PA changed that .All present holders will lose their present permit when it expires .That will screw me later this year !
As far as I understand it, this is not the case. What is odd about PA is that the availability of pistol permits for NRs varies county to county. For example, Pike County will not issue, but Erie and Scranton will. I have not done this yet, but it is supposedly a 30-minute, easy experience.
That said, a NY permit does allow one to drive through PA with a pistol - but one may not leave the vehicle with the pistol.
28 April 2017, 21:23
PhilROn my drive to SC, I will be passing thru the states mentioned in my initial post, but overnighting in SC for 2 nights....attending a wedding. Am I legit in SC under the Firearms Protection Act as long as the pistol stays in a locked case inside the vehicle?
Phil
Life Member- NRA & SCI
28 April 2017, 23:44
larrysIn my opinion, and I am not an attorney, the "pass through" clause allows for short stops for gas and such, but for days may be marginal depending on the individual law enforcement officer.
quote:
"§ 926A.
Interstate transportation of firearms
"Any person not prohibited by this chapter from transporting,
shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport an
unloaded, not readily accessible firearm in interstate commerce
notwithstanding any provision of any legislation enacted, or any
rule or regulation prescribed by any State or political subdivision
thereof".
Larry
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson
29 April 2017, 01:49
ZekeShikarIf I had to carry my pistol unloaded and locked at all times, there's no reason to take it and take it I would... but that's just me.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with as much restrictions as some of you gentlemen.
What about a nice pump scattergun with a magazine full of 4 Buck? That would do also.
Zeke
29 April 2017, 05:57
carpetman1In Texas, an active duty military can get a concealed permit at 19, otherwise 21. This really doesn't make sense as they can join the military at age 17 with parental consent and at 18 without it. Texas and Minnesota use to be reciprocal, but they don't have an under 21 provision, so they no longer recognize Texas permits. This too seems contrary as Minnesota seemed to be the most patriotic state I have been in. You see more US flags flown there than any place I've been. At the Minneapolis airport they had free lodging for veterans and all types of welcome extended. Would think they would have provisions for under age active duty to carry.
29 April 2017, 07:48
GatogordoI would suggest a short barreled rifle, such as a 16 inch AR, or something like a Marlin with 18 or 20 inch barrels. A .45-70 hole looks awfully large from the front end.
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When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere.
NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.
I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
29 April 2017, 09:25
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by PhilR:
Thank you all for the input. Looks like the handgun stays home this time. Now I have to figure out how to drive to Montana for my annual hunting trip with my hunting handgun on board.
Phil
When we do mega truck camper road trips out of Alaska to the lower 48 it requires us to travel through Canada. That pretty much rules out handguns. We travel with a Tactical shotgun for camper protection.
29 April 2017, 22:43
carpetman1Frostbit--Things might have changed, been 50 years since I traveled to and from Alaska, my handguns were sealed at the border with strict instructions they better still be sealed at other end. Long guns were not sealed but stern warning I was a guest in Canada and did not have permission to fire a gun in their country.
01 June 2017, 23:40
Nitro Expressquote:
Originally posted by carpetman1:
Frostbit--Things might have changed, been 50 years since I traveled to and from Alaska, my handguns were sealed at the border with strict instructions they better still be sealed at other end. Long guns were not sealed but stern warning I was a guest in Canada and did not have permission to fire a gun in their country.
I had the same experience, going and coming from Army assignments in the '70s and early '80's. But my understanding is that all that changed since you & I drove the Alcan; now handguns just aren't allowed, sealed or not.
I could be wrong--maybe someone who's traveled through Canada recently can provide current requirements.
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21 August 2017, 07:50
Mike_DettorreIs it just a camper shell? or an actual "cabin" with a vertical door, stove, table, fold down bed, toilet etc?
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21 August 2017, 17:45
swampshooterNow I know why I never travel back east when I go on vacation.
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21 August 2017, 19:36
GrenadierThis is a perfect example of why we need universal concealed carry permit reciprocity. Carry permits should be just as universally recognized as drivers licenses.
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22 August 2017, 22:19
Snowwolfequote:
Originally posted by mete:
" easy to get a PA permit " ???
AFAIK the present gov of PA changed that .All present holders will lose their present permit when it expires .That will screw me later this year !
Can you please explain what changed?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
28 August 2017, 00:32
Reconoquote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Un load it lock in a box and travel under the firearm owners protection act.
AND stay out of NJ. There is some evidence that they don't care what the law says.
28 August 2017, 22:15
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by Recono:
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Un load it lock in a box and travel under the firearm owners protection act.
AND stay out of NJ. There is some evidence that they don't care what the law says.
There are some states that regularly violate rights and laws of the land.
I try and avoid those area as a matter of course.
29 August 2017, 10:57
mlfgunsThere's a Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States by J. Scott Kappas, ESQ.
Around $14. get it for piece of mind.
New Jersey, D.C. and Maryland are anti gun period.
If you want to drive south with your firearm, You have to be willing to detour around those liberal states, and don't spend a penny supporting their economy.
I have read stories of conceal carry peace officers from other states driving through and getting arrested in those states. Causing serious prison time, financial disaster etc..
They and Chicago are way worse than Ca..
Best of luck to you and safe travel.