Kingfisher...

Anyone who gets to go to Cozumel, then an awesome elk hunt, shouldn't expect to also get high velocitoes in his .500 S&W..

I love that place.. have fun!!

I got some AA4100. I'll try some this week end with my 350gr bullets if it doesn't rain. I would like to see how it groups cause this is shotgun powder. That would be great if it gives a three shot 1.5" group.

Glad to see you got it back quick. You got my
curiosity up so I did some checking. I shoot a RSB in
454 and also a SW 629 hunter out of the performance center.
Both of these pieces shoot well and I found the gap on both
to my surprise to be at .007". One thing that I believe
that needs to be taken into consideration also is the size
of the bore on your 500. The tolerances should not be as
tight on a Howitzer as on a .223 in order to be within
allowable tolerances. Good luck and fun at the range.

In regards to your comments about the Sixgunner board, the fastest and easiest way to find out if its your gun or not would have been to buy a box of Cor Bon ammo and run it over a chrony, and they knew that. For some reason you did not want to do that.

Seems anyone who can spring for elk trips and Mexico trips could if they were serious buy ammo. Especially someone who is all wadded up like you are over his gun being "slow".

If you read my post on Sixgunner I told you why your gun shoots like it does. You just didn't like the answer. Once again, they have access to powders you don't. In light of that odds are you will never handload to their specs.

Smith was a little generous with their advertising numbers suprise suprise ! and you belived them. The FIRST thing you should have done (like me) was to run factory ammo thru your gun as a control load then you would know.

Instead of admitting your mistake you come over here and badmouth the most knowledgeable group of revolver shooters on the planet.

I'm JJ Miller and I approved this message

Thanks for the vote of confidence Poletax, and thanks again to JT and JRO for all of the assistance. JJ, you make a good point about the Elk hunt and the money situation etc. The fact of the matter is I just haven't gotten around to it, and to be honest I want to see what some different handloads would do. They'd prove the same point anyway. If 10 different handloads with 3 different bullets all shoot slower than most of the other guns out there, then the factory loads will too. Not to mention that I know I'm loading to published maximums, and I don't know what they're loading too. Nonetheless, I will be buying some factory ammo, I just haven't done so yet.



Anyway, I finally was able to make it to the range yesterday and here's what I got. I had to extrapolate the data for the 385 gr. Remingtons since there's not a lot of data out there for them. Here are my results.



Sierra 400 gr. JSP

31 gr. AA9 = 1490



Sierra 400 gr. JSP

33gr. AA9 = 1548



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

38 gr. Lil gun = 1560



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

31 gr. AA9 = 1482



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

33 gr. AA9 = 1550



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

37gr. Lilgun = 1580



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

39 gr. Lilgun = 1582



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

39gr. H-4227 = 1518



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

40 gr. H-4227 = 1548



Rem 385 gr. CLSP

41 gr. H-4227 = 1591

Kingfisher, I loaded some of my 350gr bullets with AA4100 and was I suprized that powder shot a 7/8" three shot group
at 100yds with max handload 40.8grs. I had my conograph but I was shooting high in it and the battery was half dead I didn't expect these problems but was happy about that group.
I'm pretty sure they were going over 1700 fps.

I'm still trying to get my hands on some AA4100, but all I could find in the meantime was AA9. As soon as I track down some AA4100, I'm going to try it with all 3 bullets, plus I need to try the 350's with the AA9 just to see what happens. If I can get the 385's and/or 400's up to 1600 fps. I'll live with it.

I'm going to shoot some 400's this sunday with my conagraph. They are listed over 1600fps with AA4100.I'm trying to locate some 500gr bullets for my 500. I sent an E-mail to Hornady about them. I heard they are making them.

JOHN

Well I got them on order the 500gr bullets but I don't have any load dada for these 500gr bullets. Do you know anywhere that has any load dada for them?

You can get data from Hornady for the 500 gr bullets.

The bullets to me are nothing really special.

It would have been nice if they were of the XTP design though.

Keep me posted JRO. In the meantime I think I have a way to slug the barrel, so I'm going to see if I can get that accomplished in the next couple of days. Turns out the cases for my 338/378 have just about the right inside diameter for the job. I didn't want to waste one of the 500 cases since I don't have all that many at the moment and I've got gobs of 378 Weatherby brass that is too stretched for reloading. I cut one in half this evening and I think it's going to be perfect. They're actually a little bit over sized (inside diameter appears to be about .525, but I can always sand down the slug a hair to get it to go into the barrel. Anyway, I think that's the best way to do it at the moment. The only other way I can think of would be to plug the barrel and pour lead into it but I'm worried about the compensator getting in the way. Anyway, that's the current plan... we'll see what happens.

They are the XTP design suppose to be anyway don't have them yet.

I went through this on another forum and even posted a pic or the ones I have and a pic of the product description on the side panel of the box.

THEY ARE A JACKETED FLAT POINT SOFT POINT NOT XTP DESIGN.
WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT IT?

I said suppose to be in other words I don't know if they are XTP. I really don't have any prefernce soft point or XTP. I didn't know you got yours at the same place.

JRO45 What does this look like?

Thanks Me_Plat. They sure look like Jacketed Flat Points to me.I got mine today. Have you loaded any yet? If so what powder did you use?

I've used H110 and AA1680. Both with CCI250's
I haven't chronoed them yet as i am not really that interested in the velocity. I may get around to it later.
Hornady's data goes up to 1300 from an 83/8th revolver with their max load. The load can go higher than Hornadys though.
I believe I still like the Sierra 400 grainers better.

I like the 400gr bullets also I loaded the 500gr bullets with AA4100 I used 32grs I figure this will put those bullets at about 1350 fps. I am going to shoot some of my 400 bullets at 100 yds to see how they group tomorrow. May fire 1 or 2 500 gr bullets to see how they do also at 50 yds. I put a small hole in my flat nose bullets so they shoot streight. I'm getting low on this powder AA4100. Just called and put some more on order but will not get it til new year. Thats the way it is.

Kingfisher,
I shot some 400gr bullets threw my conograph and they did 1620, 1613 fps and I fired one 500gr bullet to see what it would do with my load it did 1419 fps. That AA4100 is some good powder.