I know this is hardcast country and most of the dedicated hunters on here advocate such bullets. With that said, if for some reason you could not use hardcast bullets, what jacketed bullets would you use for the cartridges above? Specifically, what brand and weight?

41 Rem Mag
44 Rem Mag
45 Colt
475 Linebaugh
500 JRH

Either rolling your own or buying loaded ammo off the shelf (I can see some of you rolling your eyes), which would you use for your hunting purposes in the above mentioned cartridges?

Landrum

I don't own a 41 Mag.

44 Mag, I have used Hornday, Remington, and Sierra hollow points in 240 grain weight. All have worked well. Have also used 300 grain XTPs and Speer softpoints. Deer aren't that hard to kill.

45 Colt - the 250 grain XTPs work fine. The 300 grain Speer softpoints are good also; I really like that nose profile.

475 Linebaugh - I have used both the 400 grain XTP and Speer Golddot. I prefer the Speer, but this bullet so overmatches deer, it's a moot point. If you are after dangerous game, I would strongly recommend hard cast or punch bullets.

I do not have a .500 JRH

Hope this helps

Of the above I have a .41 and a 500 Linebaugh. never met a .41 bullet I didn't like. for the 500, its a little different story beacause most 500 caliber pistol bullets are .500 and the Linebaugh is .510. The Barnes Original 300 and 450 grain .510 bullets for the 50-110 Winchester round are about the only jacketed bullet I've used in quantity and they work fine. The 450 is a touch heavy for me but it shoots fast enough to be a good hunting round. recoil with the 300 is sharp and obnoxious when loaded to max.

I like hardcast bullets. However, of the jacketed ones I only have experience with the XTP and XTP Mag. I am talking about loading my own.

As far as factory ammo is concerned, in the 44 I've used the 240 JSP and HP a bit. Never bought any jacketed 45 Colt rounds. I've used the Hornady 400 XTP in the 475 though it is a rather mild loading, it seems.

Anyway, I'd just like to see what others have used or are using. Soon I will be a card carrying member of the Cult of 41 so I would like to hear views on jacketed bullets for that.

Landrum

jwp has a .41 and should be able to offer more insight into that caliber than I. I got started with the .44 when I hit the ".4s" and never got a .41. One of my neighbors really likes his.

.41 Mag.: 210 Sierra JHC
.44 Mag.: 240 Sierra JHC, 240 Speer Mag. JHP
.45 Colt: 250 Horn. XTP, 300 Horn. XTP
.454 Casull: 300 Horn. Mag. XTP, 300 Sierra JSP
.475 Lin: 400 Horn. Mag. XTP
.500 JRH/WE: 350 Horn. Mag. XTP

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.41 Mag.: 210 Sierra JHC
.44 Mag.: 240 Sierra JHC, 240 Speer Mag. JHP
.45 Colt: 250 Horn. XTP, 300 Horn. XTP
.454 Casull: 300 Horn. Mag. XTP, 300 Sierra JSP
.475 Lin: 400 Horn. Mag. XTP
.500 JRH/WE: 350 Horn. Mag. XTP

Good choices but all calibers listed will do well with hard cast. Just go a little heavy for the .41.

I shoot

41 Mag 210
44 Mag 300 XTP
45 250 gr
I don't shoot the others.

For the .41Magnum, I like the Sierra 170grJHC for varmints, antelope, and small deer. For small boar, good sized deer, and cow elk; I've used the 210grJHP/JHC by Hornady, Speer, Nosler, and Sierra.On anything larger, I like a 250grWFNGC cast from my NEI mould.

On the .475LB, I like both Hornady's 325 and 400gr. jacketed bullets. For small stuff, I like Speer's GD offerings or a Barnes.

pretty cold out when boolits gotta wear jackets

The 41 maggie is one of my all time favorite calibers. Many shooters say its underpowered, I haven't found that to be the case.
The Sierra 170 gr bullet has an outstanding reputation on game, mostly deer but its been used successfully on bigger game. I think any of the 210 gr JHP's are terrific. Mostly it boils down to where the shot is placed.
Most handgunners realize that its not how much power a bullet has but how that power is tranferred to the animal, much less power than a rifle but capable of taking anything on the planet with correct loads. As mentioned, deer are pretty easy with any decent jacketed slug, put a Sierra, Hornady, Speer or Nolser in the boiler room & its lights out.
I've used the 270 gr Speer Gold Dot 44 maggie on elk, great bullet & more than up to the task..
While I've used the 250 gr XTP's in the Ruger 45 I've never taken any big game with them.
Being a lifelong cast bullet shooter, I still understand that jacketed slugs are superb & in some cases better than my cast handloads. No one I know of has more first hand experience with jacketed slugs on big game than friend Ken O'Neill, this from revolvers.

Dick

I am a real fan of the .41, and for anything bigger that an average deer, I prefer the Remington 210gr soft-point. I've used the Speer Gold Dot, so the newer DeepCurl is MOL the same.
Most of my deer hunting with a handgun, has been for the Sitka blacktail, and they are not even hard to drop. The larger Mule and Whitetail, can use a little more penetration with expansion.
As the OP said, mostly cast is popular, but I differ a little because I like a hollow-point cast from a slightly-hardened SWC, and loaded a little down from max.
I use an RCBS 210 mold that has been HPed and cast from 1:10 tin/lead w/o WWs. I also have a Lyman GCed 210 mold that I use from time to time, and it's also HPed. I hold the velocity down in my M57 6", to about 1000fps.
I don't use the others....Good luck,
and have fun,
Gene

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The 41 maggie is one of my all time favorite calibers. Many shooters say its underpowered, I haven't found that to be the case.
The Sierra 170 gr bullet has an outstanding reputation on game, mostly deer but its been used successfully on bigger game. I think any of the 210 gr JHP's are terrific. Mostly it boils down to where the shot is placed.
Most handgunners realize that its not how much power a bullet has but how that power is tranferred to the animal, much less power than a rifle but capable of taking anything on the planet with correct loads. As mentioned, deer are pretty easy with any decent jacketed slug, put a Sierra, Hornady, Speer or Nolser in the boiler room & its lights out.
I've used the 270 gr Speer Gold Dot 44 maggie on elk, great bullet & more than up to the task..
While I've used the 250 gr XTP's in the Ruger 45 I've never taken any big game with them.
Being a lifelong cast bullet shooter, I still understand that jacketed slugs are superb & in some cases better than my cast handloads. No one I know of has more first hand experience with jacketed slugs on big game than friend Ken O'Neill, this from revolvers.

Dick

The .41 is not under powered, it is close to the .44. The reason I never bought one was because of poor bullet selections. They were made to shoot people. That can be corrected for hunting and there are fine choices today.
Since I own a .44 and have owned many, many of them I never needed a .41. If I had a .41 I would never need a .44.
It is only economics in that I can't have every caliber.

The Remington 210 JFP is a very good jacketed bullet in the 41 Mag in my expereince

.41 Mag : Speer 210 GDHP, 210 XTP
.44 Mag : XTP's - 200, 240, 300 gr
.45 Colt - just got my first, but shoot 240 XTP Mag, 260/300 Partitions, and 260 gr Federal Fusion factory ammo out of the Casull's
.475 Linebaugh : 325/400 Speer GDSP
.500 JRH/WE - 350 XTP Mag

44Mag, 300grn XTP's and 300 grn Nosler JHP. Bang,flop,lites out, etc.

My choice for all would be cast, but you want jacketed bullets. So here is my list. I have all but the 500 JHR but I do have a 500 mag. I have shot the below jacketed bullets in each round, and they work well. I just prefer cast for everything. 2 holes for sure.

41 Rem Mag 210 gr. Hornady XTP Deer
44 Rem Mag 300 gr. Hornady XTP, Speer soft point. Deer, hogs
45 Colt 250 gr. Hornady XTP or 300 gr. Speer GD Deer, hogs
475 Linebaugh 400 gr. Hornady XTP or a Speer HP Deer, hogs black bear
500 JRH 400 gr. Barnes Buster Any thing!

For my 41s I shoot either the 210 XTP or Semington JFP. I never needed anything else. For the 44, when I had one, it was the 300 Xtp.

44 Mag: 300grn xtp, Castcore 300grn WFNGC and 300grn JHP Nosler for Mag loads. 240grn Speer and Laser Cast lead for plinkin.

I have only used the 480R… and the Hornady 325g bullet on hogs…

it will put down a 200lb hog very fast.

I have also loaded and shot the 325g Speer Deepcurl (with 300-MP)… but have not shot any game.

I Plan to use the Speer 400g & 300-MP powder… but have yet to move there yet

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My choice for all would be cast, but you want jacketed bullets. So here is my list. I have all but the 500 JHR but I do have a 500 mag. I have shot the below jacketed bullets in each round, and they work well. I just prefer cast for everything. 2 holes for sure. Smiler

41 Rem Mag 210 gr. Hornady XTP Deer
44 Rem Mag 300 gr. Hornady XTP, Speer soft point. Deer, hogs
45 Colt 250 gr. Hornady XTP or 300 gr. Speer GD Deer, hogs
475 Linebaugh 400 gr. Hornady XTP or a Speer HP Deer, hogs black bear
500 JRH 400 gr. Barnes Buster Any thing! Big Grin


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I find NOTHING wrong here. Thank you. Good choices.

Well I can only throw in on the first two.

In the 41, I have shot every brand and weight I could get my hands on over the past 25 or so years. I have to agree with most that about the best all around choice is the 210 XTP. This said my favorite bullet is the Remington 200gr JHP loaded over 20.5grs of 296. This isn't top end by any stretch and seems to be a perfect balance of speed for this particular bullet. It has shown outstanding performance out to 100+ yards on the feral hogs we chase around, usually only requiring one solid hit to put them down for good.

For the 44 I like the 240gr Remington SJHP again loaded down a bit. It shoots VERY good form my RH and has dropped everything I have put it on with no issues. Again it is a moot point to argue the performance of the XTP in this caliber as well. IT is simply a very well built bullet.