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If you were to teach a new hunter with a handgun, what gun/caliber would you use and why? I'm thinking 4"-6" barrel, revolver, 22 LR or 38 special loaded down. Alan  | ||
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GSSP, I like your choice of calibers. My wife and I are in the process of finding the right handgun for her and the biggest factor in her like/dislike of a weapon has been the grip. | |||
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A .22 should always be part of your arsenal, but I really like the .38 special for beginning shooters. It's just more fun to shoot and it's easy to grow bored with the .22. It's just more substantial -- for lack of a better way to describe it. But, good to start out with a .22. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I would start with the 22, then go to the 38. Even after the new shooter is shooting the 38 good, continue to practice with the 22. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Of course, why didn't I think of that. Spend more money! You guys must get a kick back from S&W or Ruger; right!?  Great idea though. Now I don't have to stress over which to get. Plus if I'm having trouble finding 22 ammo or sm pistol pistol primers, I can hopefully switch to the other. Alan | |||
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I don't know how true it is but most manufacturers have stopped producing .22's for a while. Seems as if they just can't keep up with demand for other stuff. | |||
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gssp if you don't want suggestions don't ask.As i said on another board you posted on i would start with .22 i prefer the ruger single six if auto the MK II and no i do not get any kickback. ALL THOUGH you do leave factors out like age and have they shot before?Is this the first handgun they will be shooting??Or are they just starting to hunt but been shooting.What about body size size are they small boned and weak wristed or bigger and can handle more recoil DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR | |||
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Strange this - but somebody don`t care about recoil. I do (try to  ) instructions with police personell - and a lot of the new guys/girls - have never shot a shot before.And therefor - they don`t know anything about recoil. Some of them - could shoot a .44 - without blinking with a eye, and others will do that with 22 Short. | |||
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Alot of wonderful suggestions; thanks to all. Here is what I think I'll do. Buy both a 22 LR and a 38 Spl. I also think both should be of the same design to teach with. This means I think I'll buy a S&W 22, K22 or 617, i'm not sure yet. I also have a local shop which has a brand new M67, 4", SS, 38 spl for just $530 which beats or meets dlr price. Differing opionions? Oh, and to answer any further quetions about the experience level of my student/s. At present, I don't know but I have to assume it's nil to none. If they want to shoot auto's, i'll deal with that later unless they have enough experience to start with my Glock m27 or Ed Brown 1911. Alan | |||
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i think you are making a good decision with trying to stay with the same design gun and good luck keep us posted as the traing goes on DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR | |||
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GSSP Your plan is excellent. After they become proficent with the 38, they can transition to the 9mm Glock. A 22LR semi auto would be cheaper to shoot, but if they can shoot a 38 Special Mod 67 good, then the Glock 9mm recoil should not be a problem. You might think about "rubber" grips for the revolvers. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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smith and wesson 18, a 4 inch 22 long rifle double action revolver. | |||
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N E 450 No2, The model 67 already has rubber grips as does the M617. My Glock 27 is in 40 S&W. Buckeyeshooter, Model 18, hadn't heard of that one. Found some on Gunbroker. Three of 4 are pricer than a new 617, though one is interesting. Thanks for the tip. Alan | |||
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Sorry read over the 27. Still if they are good with a 38 [full power loads] I think they could handle a few 40cal shots. Just watch them for a flinch. It held for the new shooters to wear double ear protection. For some of them the noise is the worst part. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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4"22 revolver is my first choice followed by a 22 semi auto loaded singly for a while. Single action for the revolver at first A small target at 10 yards or less at first. Stress that one can not miss fast enough. Sight alignment. sight picture, breath control, trigger SQUEEZE! Don't limit your challenges . . . Challenge your limits | |||
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What is the difference between the S&W's M17, K22 and M18? I'm seeing all of them for sale on the auction sites and I want to make sure I buy the one right for me. Thanks for all the replies. Alan | |||
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I can pick either the 4" or 6" 617 for the same price. Which would be better to teach with? My M67 in 38 special is 4". Is the extra weight a "negative" item to have while teaching new students or would it be a positive to dampen the muzzle movement? Alan | |||
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Alan, I think if the new shooter is a lady or a "kid" the 4" 22LR would be a better choice as it is not as heavy. The Model 18 4" is the same size as the 67 4", but there is nothing wrong with a 617. A couple of weeks ago I took my 11 year old nephew shooting. We shot some handguns and he shot a Mod 15 S&W 4" [same as the 67 except blue] with wadcutters and did great. It was his first time to shoot the 38 but he has shot a 4" S&W Kit gun before. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I suggest an S&W 329 Scandium .44 mag with a minimum of 300 grain Buffalo Bore ammo  NRA Life Member | |||
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Originally the 18 was the 'combat masterpiece'(4 inch barrel) version in 22 cal and the 17 was offered in 6 inch and 8 3/8ths barrel lengths. After the 18 was discontinued there were some 17's in 4 inch barrel. The 6 prefix denotes stainless steel instead of carbon steel. | |||
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I taught my wife to shoot with a S&W 686. With .38 Spl. loads, it's an absolute cream puff to shoot. The sights are nice and it's a solid pistol. I did have a trigger job done, which makes it even nicer. analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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I recommend a T/C Contender with 10 inch 22 barrel. Start with irons first, then add optics if needed. Add a 10 inch 357 magnum or maximum, 44 magnum, or 45 Colt barrel when the hunter is ready to chase big game. | |||
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