At what distance should a person be able to keep say 70 to 75 percent of his shots on a quarter before you guys would say the person is a good shot. This being OFFHAND with a 44 mag or more?

...does a .41 Magnum count at 25 yards offhand if it was done double action?



...sorry about the one off shot...zigged when I should have zagged...

Bob

One must ask. Can you do that consistantly or was that a fluke>
I really meant on a consistant basis say if one went to the range 5 straight days could one do that well.
Sorry I did not say that in the post.
I like that gun although I have never owned a 41.

..not everyday...but it's no "fluke" either...



That was 50' DA. The bottom hole was the first shot and what I was aiming at for the next 5. Gun shoots a little high at 50' as it's sighted in for 50 yards.

.38 Super makes the cut too...10 rounds



...18 rounds....



At 55 the eyes are starting to fade a little. I can still shoot that well...I just can't see the sights any more...

Bob

That is really good shooting to say the least.

Thank you...but back to your original question...

Since this is the Handgun Hunting Board my personal standard for hunting big game is the standard 9" paperplate or 8.5x11" piece of paper. I don't shoot further than I can put 99% of my rounds into that standard from a given shooting position. Since a quarter is round I'll use the paperplate as the standard.

A quarter is .95". In your question using the .44 the diameter is .429...we will call it .43. To hit the quarter each time just on the edge will take 1.38 MOA. That is .95 for the quarter and .215x2 for the center to edge of the bullet... Lets call it 1.3 moa.

99% of the people can't hit a quarter with an open sighted handgun at 100 yards...most can't do it with a rifle from a nonsuppoerted postion. So that is a little unrealistic.

So lets take say 15 yards.... 15 goes into 100 6.66666 times. Multiply that times 1.3 and it gives you...8.666...and a standard paperplate is... 9".

So for me I try and put all my shots on a 1" paister at 15 yards... Right around 9 MOA....

Bob

One inch at 15 yards is 6.4 MOA (.0018519 radians). 1.414702 is 9 MOA at 15 yards.
Being able to shoot that well makes me look up to you.
If I remember correctly the 10 ring on afifty yard slow fire target is 3.375 inches so you would be able to keep all your shots inside of it shooting with a degree of accuracy of 1 inch at 15 yards
I believe that the first 200 score in NRA 50 yard bullseye was set by Herschel Anderson in 1975.
I am going to have to practice alot more but the cost of ammo even though reloading makes that an iffy thing.
My hat is off to you.

I should have clarified...I use a 1" square patch, that is 1" on each side so across the middle it is larger as I place it like a dimond and aim so I have a triangle sitting on top of the front sight. If you look at the e-nickel Combat Commander you will see what I mean. So really I am between 8-9 moa..which is hard enough to do.

If you shoot a S&W .44 then go get a 4" M18 or 6" M17 .22 to practice with. If it is a single action then get one that best matches your gun. You sould be shooting one of those WalMart bulk 550 packs of .22 for every 50 round box of centerfire you shoot.

You should know and be able to call where every one of your shots go. Start at 7 yards at a 1" patch and fire one shot. After you know where that one hit fire another. Once you can chew that patch through the backer then move back....and do it again. People stand at 50', shoot six shots then go check the target...problem is they can't tell you where each shot went, where they thought it went or why it went there.

Trigger squeeze and followthough are the two most important things. Get some snap caps and dry fire at home 3-5 minutes at a time. Use only a blank wall or piece of paper. Concentrate on sight picture (allignment of the front and rear sights) making sure they don't move in relation to eachother when the trigger is pulled.

Followthrough...if you are not seeing the front sight rise up from the rear and in a larger caliber gun the muzzleflash, then you are blinking (flinching) as the hammer is falling. When I squeeze the trigger if the next thing I see is the gun in recoil then I blinked...and only have about a 50% chance the shot went where I wanted it to. If I see the whole recoil sequence then the bullet 99% of the time goes right where the sights were when the hammer started to fall.

Ball&Dummy...to cure flinch place empties in your cylinder or magazine where you don't know where they are...when you make yourself look like a fool enough times flinching on the dummies it helps cure the flinchettes big time...

Workout...and I hate this...but the quality of my shooting varries in direct proportion to how much I am working out. The more I workout the better I shoot...at least for me, there is no way around it...

Bob

I remember reading an article (I think by Ross Seyfried) in which the author commented that 1" per 10 yards (or 10 MOA) offhand qualifies as being a decent shot. Obviously there are some that can do better, but that puts your quarter scenario at around 13-14 yards...dvnv