I know this should be posted in the reloading forums, but there's alot of cast shooters here I didn't see there.I'm going to buy a set of dies for my 45 ruger vac. I'll be shooting cast bulits {store bought, i'm not casting my own yet] and with all the wealth of imformation out here I thought you guys which ones worked for you? Also what is a good brand of cast bullet to buy?

Yup, a lot of us here reload! Cast Performance and Beartooth both make good hardcast bullets.

Do you see why questions cannot be answered on here even though they are asked properly?
The title of the post is DIES not CAST BULLETS cast bullets were asked about as a secondary question to the main topic as depicted by the title DIES.
Immediately he got a response answering about the secondary question but not one about the primary which was DIES although the first question was about DIES.

I have used Lyman, Hornady, and RCBS and prefer RCBS. And yes Cast Performance is good along with Beartooth and a couple others such as Leadhead Bullets and I believe Montana Bullet Works bullets if you want to pay big prices for these bullets from these makers.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joess:
I'm going to buy a set of dies for my 45 ruger vac. [/QUOTE}

This reads more like a declarative sentence than a question. So, your point is....?

MS HITMAN
If you will read further on in the sentence you will see I hope:

going to buy a set of dies for my 45 ruger vac. I'll be shooting cast bulits {store bought, i'm not casting my own yet] and with all the wealth of imformation out here I thought you guys which ones worked for you?

THEN he asked about the BRAND of cast bullets

If the question only pertained to cast bullets why did he entitle it DIES

Did you even read the question?

I use Carbide RCBS dies to load my 45 Colts.

I get my hard cast bullets from Montana Bullet Works. I think Dave at Montana Bullet Works has some great prices compared to Cast Performance or Beartooth.
http://www.montanabulletworks.com/default.php

Yes, Me_Plat. I did read the question in the thread. You did as well, because I see you answered it.

Don't ever give up hope.

As to why the thread title is "dies"; I can not answer that one as I did not start the thread. I will tell you though, this is not something I am going to dwell on.

Good for you. MS HITMAN
MAy be the poster can answer the question for you as to WHY the thread is entitled DIES

Me_Plat -- you have become a regular internet police officer -- actually a traffic officer as you are attempting to direct the way members on the open forum respond to questions. We are discussing here. You must be a lot of fun to talk to in person -- just yes/no answers and no anecdotes to go with them, save for that gem about how people live their lives and your revelation about your chocolate preferences. I don't really understand why the way in which people respond to these posts so upsets you? I don't see a single person arguing here or resorting to insults -- but you. I responded to that post rather late last night -- and just maybe I didn't answer his question in its entirety. But that's okay and shouldn't be upsetting to anyone. I try to be nice to everyone here, but you make it very difficult to resond to your commentary in a friendly fashion.

That said, Me_Plat -- what is your answer/s to the question/s? You are complaining that I didn't answer it, and you're just wasting bandwidth with your nonsense about not answering the question. So, which dies and what cast bullets, Me-Plat? ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

WHITWORTH:

Thanks for proving me right.
THREE POSTS DOWN
You will see my answer

Yup, I missed that as a result of my being flabbergasted by the annoyance you feel about how folks answer posts, but, unlike you, I can admit when I do something wrong. But, who cares (aside from you)? Why do you find the internet so frustrating? Do you find disatisfaction with any other aspects of your life?

When I am wrong I most certainly do admit it.
Show me where I was wrong on the last two threads I participate on and I will print an apology to all.
In fact I was wrong yesterday about the loads of H4895 I was using in my Marlin 45/70.
I though the velocity was going to be higher but I WAS WRONG. The Chrony corrected me with great authority and with heartless vengence
Reloader 7 so far is the velocity champ SO FAR
but velocity isn't everything.
See I am just as wrong as most as I put my pants on just like everyone else I think
I could name many more things I am wrong about but the use of the word ANY and the question about DIES I am not wrong on.

PM right back at you........

I think the original question can be interpreted as asking about dies and/or cast bullets........

Yeah, like your apology a while ago without actually apologizing.......come on, let's give this nonsense a rest.

Geez, Me_Plat...maybe try having your morning coffee before becoming the forum police. The red type was the kicker...

By the way, he DID ask about bullets as well:

"Also what is a good brand of cast bullet to buy?"

ANd to answer: I prefer Cast Performance. I get fantastic accuracy -- wel under 2" for 3 shots at 100 yards from a revolver -- and have been nothing but impressed with their on-game performance. I primarily use them for hogs from 9.5 and 7.5" .44 Magnum revolvers.

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Originally posted by Me_Plat:
When I am wrong I most certainly do admit it.
Show me where I was wrong on the last two threads I participate on and I will print an apology to all.
In fact I was wrong yesterday about the loads of H4895 I was using in my Marlin 45/70.
I though the velocity was going to be higher but I WAS WRONG. The Chrony corrected me with great authority and with heartless vengence
Reloader 7 so far is the velocity champ SO FAR
but velocity isn't everything.
See I am just as wrong as most as I put my pants on just like everyone else I think
I could name many more things I am wrong about but the use of the word ANY and the question about DIES I am not wrong on.

I think someone forgot their meds.Why are you always so hostile and looking for things to correct???????Why dont you just go Trolling somewhere else???

The nice man also asked in a nice way, what boolits to buy and Whitworth answered that part of the question.
I will answer the first question! If you want the most accurate loads, buy Hornady dies.
RCBS is OK in the .45 Colt because after years of bad feedback, they finally changed them enough to give case tension, however I don't think they changed the other revolver calibers.
Most think dies are dies and all work and they do indeed all load your shells but that is all you will have--loaded rounds.
The only other dies I would consider would be Redding.
Die makers are like mold makers that think everyone uses .457" boolits in .45 caliber rifles and .429" in .44's.
Some die makers have not changed from the old days when soft lead was used and the idea was to almost slide boolits in by hand so the brass did not size the boolit. Then they depended on crimp for an even burn with the fast powders used. That does not work today with better boolits, slower powders and the distances shot with revolvers.
But there are a lot of guys that think 25 yd's is far!

Joe, although I don't reload 45Colt but have loaded for 45ACP, 38Spec, 357Mag, 41RM, 9Luger and some other pistol cartridges I prefer RCBS dies w/ carbide sizing die. I know you didn't ask but for rifle I prefer Redding.

As for cast pistol bullets, I have used many different brands and have never been dissapointed with the performance and quality of any of them. This is some of them: Meister, Cast Performance, Bushwhacker, and there are some more but my brain isn't working at full potential this A.M. The only advice concerning cast slugs that I offer is to make sure they are sized to fit the chamber throats of your revolver. I used to always buy .0001" over bore size but had trouble with my 41Magnum Ruger Blackhawk getting the accuracy that the jacketed bullets gave. I can't seem to get decent accuracy with milder loads, but shoots fairly good with full power loads. Hope this helps.

Luckyducker, thank you for posting your opinion without being hostile. I think Joe will take it into consideration.
I voice my opinion as do a few others but some have nothing better to do but cause trouble.
Sure makes it hard for a beginner.

thanks for the responses guys,-yep the main question was for the dies, I just through the cast bullet question in because I hadn't reloaded any yet.That brings us back to the dies,I'm going to use them to reload cast bullets and thought I read somewhere that some brands of dies work better with cast bullets because they don't resize the bullet during the reloading process, as Bfrshooter and Luckyducker aluded to.

quote:

Originally posted by joess:
thanks for the responses guys,-yep the main question was for the dies, I just through the cast bullet question in because I hadn't reloaded any yet.That brings us back to the dies,I'm going to use them to reload cast bullets and thought I read somewhere that some brands of dies work better with cast bullets because they don't resize the bullet during the reloading process, as Bfrshooter and Luckyducker aluded to.

You just need to have the correct contour set up in your Boolit seater.Most Co.offer differnt ones for flat cast,round cast or jacketed.

Joess, you might have took me a little backwards. You want good case tension and need fairly hard boolits. The problem with some dies is that they expand brass TOO MUCH or don't size enough to start with. Boolits must fit tight and crimp is only used to hold boolits in under recoil.
In properly loaded rounds you actually can see the grease grooves in the brass.
Hornady dies have to correct dimensions.

Actually, using a .44 Mag expander die for .45 Colt cases will give one very good neck tension. Not my original idea, I learned this from another loader.

MS, true and some use the .41 expander in the .44. If dies are made right from the start, you don't need to do that though.
Expanders can be polished down too.
I recently bought the Lyman neck die for my 45-70 to use in my revolver. It does not size the brass enough and accuracy is dismal. My expanders fall right in the case. .459" boolits are too loose.
My RCBS .44 dies never gave me accuracy so I used the dies to make all kinds of other tools. I use them for a BP compression tool and special expanders.

quote:

Originally posted by MS Hitman:
Actually, using a .44 Mag expander die for .45 Colt cases will give one very good neck tension. Not my original idea, I learned this from another loader.

Good info.I will try that and see what happens!!!

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Hornady dies have to correct dimensions.

Have to learn to read what I post. It should have said that Hornady dies have THE correct dimensions.
But I can't type!