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LMOA Redhawk. My .500 has an Ultra Dot NOW. Don't you remember our wheeling and dealing and how you hosed me before I got smart enough to buy the right scope??? RETIRED Taxidermist | |||
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He didn't start this thread, but I am more than a little confused that we are talking about ranges past 400 yards all of a sudden.......  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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LOL Whitworth, I saw Bob Munden shooting eggs at 100 yards, but you're right. The guy definitely has the wrong thread talking about distances like that. RETIRED Taxidermist | |||
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I know he did not start the thread, but he seen the topic 460 XVR or a 500. But still chose to open the thread and make a unrelated comment. If he had no interest in the 460 or 500 Mag why open it. Myself, I pass on topic's I don't have any interest in. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Here you go again, 95% of the time I take the ass woopen on our gun dealings. You just like to bitch.  If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Maybe he's trying to increase his post count! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I like the low power variables, Burris 1-4 Posi-Lok , a 2-7 at the most ,and as pointed out by others the Ultra Dot. DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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I chose the 500 The choice was easy, and I've had a great time hunting with it. Mine is one of the PC Hunter long-barreled models. I don't think of it as a .44 and so I don't compare packing it in the belt holster (from the SW custom shop) on on a sling. Both ways it's never been a problem for me through weeks of 20+ mile days on foot through heavy steep rocky timber here in the northern end of our state. I have a low-power variable Leupold in steel Leupold rings, set as low as it can go on the rail. Have fun with whatever you get. Cheers Tinker _________________________________ Self appointed Colonel, DRSS | |||
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I never bought into the 45 Colt and 454 Casull in the 460 Mag, even though you can shoot them, why buy a 460 Mag and shoot 454 Casull's and 45 Colts. ------------- Because, as a non reloader, I can fit the power to the animal and practice with cheaper ammo. Why buy any large bore, then download? | |||
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I use a 500 on deer and hogs. With light loads (light for a 500). 350 gr at 1100-1200 FPS is a pussy cat in the big XFrame. Big boy loads for big game. It's listed now in the classified section here in AR. "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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I love 6 year old Necro-threads.  Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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Hah. I didn't need the date. "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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I have both and the 460 is what id fo For. 500 makes a bigger hole till ya use some Barnes or aframes. Then that point is moot. Ive not been to impressed with the expandables outta the 500 except for the barnes. The 460 is easy to grow into and therefore my choice. Infact, its what ive started most of My kids with bc its so easy to shoot | |||
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 Taurus Raging Bull .500 S&W. 129 yards, 375 gr. X. Dropped. I've taken deer with this bullet out to 175 yards. Bushnell 2-6X Elite. Has never faltered on this gun. Larry Rogers | |||
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Love that photo, Doc!! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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That is a great photo. Thats next on the list. | |||
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Thanks. "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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375John Sounds like you have a good measure of contact with the handgun scene already and are experienced with handloading. Your post lends replies to be centered around the double action revolver. Are you looking for something that would be carried, or in a holster? Would you consider a single action revolver as well? I tend to think of a hunting revolver to be something that is carried in a holster, either on the hip or comfortably in a chest type rig. So I thought I'd more details regarding you initial question. Some other options could be the following. The BFR comes in 475 Linebaugh which is factory loaded, and the package lends itself to be carried more readily in a holster. The overall weight and size of the gun may also be a bit more portable that some of the variations of the big Smith, but it is in the power capacity to handle all you have mentioned and more. With your handloading experience, the 500 JRH could be had in the same platform as well. Both guns would lend themselves to a more portable package if you desired. Freedom Arms also offers the 475, the 500 Wyoming Express, and some folks have even had the 500 JRH chambered, but at this quick writing, don't remember if FA does the JRH or if it is done by Jack Huntington himself. That would be one for those who have firsthand knowledge of that option. Just thought I'd check. As for me, between the 460 and the 500, I would prefer the 500. In what experience I have with the two cartridges, I like the 500 better. It can be loaded to very manageable levels that are still more than enough for the animals listed. | |||
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Before I address several items, I'll say I have shot the 460 S&W Magnum revolver quite a bit and have also shot the 500 S&W Magnum revolver but my hunting experience with those cartridges is mainly with a Thompson/Center Encore in 460 S&W Magnum. In regards to the bullet diameter of the 500 being significantly bigger than the 460 I agree IF you think 0.048 inches (that's 48 hundreths of an inch) is significantly bigger. I don't think so. I've never scoped any revolver as I think it's kind of like pulling a trailer with a Corvette but I certainly don't care if you do. The 460 S&W Magnum is HARD on scopes; I've broken several with it so my advice is to get a good one. I had a "Recoil Proof" Bushnell scope that broke and Bushnell would not honor the warranty saying it had been "abused." I've broken a couple of Leupold scopes both of which were repaired promptly without any whining. The 460 S&W Magnum by Smith & Wesson has a gain twist barrel starting out at 1:100 and ending at the muzzle at 1:20. The reason was that without the gain twist the torque was too hard on scopes.  Two Cape Grysbok shot with a 460 S&W Magnum. The muzzle velocity with that load runs about 2,350 fps. As you can see, there IS something left of the animals.  A Klipspringer taken at about 180 yards with my Encore. Once again there IS something left of the animal. There was plenty left the the Duiker and Steenbok I shot with it as well. My Encore can do less than 2 inches at 200 yards but I doubt you'll get a revolver to do that even with a scope. As far as 400 yards goes, maybe my Encore could do it if I got some practice at that range but the trajectory of the bullet would make such a shot very difficult. You will, by the way, have a better chance of making a long range shot with a 460 than with a 500. | |||
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I am looking at the 460 for my 3 rd Time to Africa | |||
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Grummy, you meant 48/1000ths of an inch. 48/100 is almost a 1/2"....big difference :-) | |||
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neat side by side article in the new Rifleman comparing the two. | |||
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You're right! What was I thinking! | |||
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I like the .500. I believe it is the better choice at the reasonable revolver ranges that most should adhere to (that certainly includes myself). I'd use a good low power fixed (I prefer the 2x or 4x Leupolds) or variable scope and strong rings like Warne makes or maybe the TSOB. With a full charge under a 325 or 375 gr Barnes TSX you'll flatten your trajectory and flatten your game. For really big stuff you've got the Hornady 500 grainer, various good cast bullets, CEB's and many others to try. It's a fun caliber! That said, unless you are completely committed to the S&W x-frame I'd suggest buying a Magnum Research BFR. It is stronger, lighter, handles the longest bullets/loads you can make, extremely accurate and durable and is even less expensive! I've had a couple of x-frames and a BFR .500 S&W. I sold the Smiths but the BFR remains and I don't see myself selling it. Also, consider a BFR in .45-70. While I've never owned one, I've shot one and was impressed. The .458 caliber has a ton of REAL bullets to play with! For plains game a stout load using a Barnes 300 or 350 gr TSX would be just the ticket! The trajectory might surprise you too! I've got nothing against the x-frame or the .460 S&W cartridge. A lot of people like them but I think the BFR is a better machine. Just my $.02 and I'm sure you'll have fun with either. | |||
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Holy crap! I didn't realize this thread was 6 years old! I reckon he's made his decision by now!  | |||
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And I don't recall every reading what that decision was. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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Heck last time he posted was 2011 http://forums.accuratereloadin...091078661#4091078661 | |||
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I thought that only my wife could take that long and remain undecided! | |||
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