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Redhawk is usually in my shop at some point every day and during a bull session yesterday, a buddy of ours came in. After the usual session was about to break up, he asked us, "Do you guys know anyone who has a .45 automatic." We told him that we both do.

Then he tells us he has a "cannister" of ".45 auto shells" that a friend of his "made". He says that the guy took .30-06 cases, cut them down to .45 length and then loaded them.

Redhawk and I looked at each other trying to figure out this Chinese firedrill idea when he added: "Well, if I didn't find somebody, I was just going to shoot them off in my .30-06."

Both of our mouths dropped open at the same time I think and I finally asked him how he thought that would work. He said, "Well, they're .30-06 cases." "YEAH, but they're .45 caliber bullets."

Redhawk asked him to call us after he touched that first round off and we'd like to know if he wanted to try a second round.

Sort of sheepishly, he said, "Oh, I never thought about that." HERE'S YOUR SIGN.


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Sort of sheepishly, he said, "Oh, I never thought about that." HERE'S YOUR SIGN.


HERE'S YOUR SIGN. WTF??? I don't get it.
 
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Dave, I gather you're not a fan of Bill Engvall??? Well, it would take too much space to explain it then.

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Sort of sheepishly, he said, "Oh, I never thought about that." HERE'S YOUR SIGN.


HERE'S YOUR SIGN. WTF??? I don't get it.


It is not WTF... It is a phrase for being a dumbass.

You can't shoot 45 auto bullets in a 30-06 just because the cases were made from a 30-06 case. . The guys was talking about shooing them in his 30-06 rifle. A 45 Cal bullet would not go down a 30 cal barrel.

It was a blond moment for him.

George I guess you had to be there.


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No guys, I wasn't there and get the picture very well. I'm glad you pointed this out to "Einstein". Maybe he'll live a little bit longer and get a little bit smarter. I'm not very optimistic, but hope springs eternal.

The question begs to be asked, why in the hell would anyone make 45 ACP cases from '06. Kind of like playing in traffic; one can, but why would you want to?



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Wonder if they were for the .451 Detonics, as memory serves the cases for that were made from .30-06 sized cases. bewildered
 
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And they vote!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eeker
 
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And they vote!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eeker


Survival of the fittest......yikes!

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I bet he voted for BAMA! I would have told him to shoot them all. Let me see, how many of those boolits would it take to fill a 30-06 barrel? jumping
 
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Unfortunately, there's stupidity on both sides of the political divide. But, I'll take a stupid right winger over a stupid liberal (is this redundant?) any day! dancing



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Yes, stupid liberal is redundant.



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Dave, I gather you're not a fan of Bill Engvall??? Well, it would take too much space to explain it then.


I've seen too little of his comedy to be a fan or otherwise. But I get it now...it's not any funnier than before your link explained it...I guess you had to be there. Or be half faced.
 
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onefunzr2, what address would you like me to send your sign to?


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If I'm not mistaken Colonel Hatcher wrote about shooting 45 ACP's in the 1903 Springfield rifle. These experiments were carried out at Springfield Armory in the early 1900s. I read this in one of Colonel Hatchers books while stationed at Parris Island in the early 1960s.This book was in the base library. There was no damage to the Springfield. The bullet evidently just swaged down and left the barrel.I can't remember more facts because the early 1960's were many moons ago.
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onefunzr2, what address would you like me to send your sign to?


Address it to occupant,
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George I think you got a stalker, kind of creepy.


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Keith1,

I won't argue what you say you read, but will say that won't be done with any of my firearms.



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Dave, I gather you're not a fan of Bill Engvall??? Well, it would take too much space to explain it then.


I've seen too little of his comedy to be a fan or otherwise. But I get it now...it's not any funnier than before your link explained it...I guess you had to be there. Or be half faced.


A sense of humor doesn't hurt either.



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If I'm not mistaken Colonel Hatcher wrote about shooting 45 ACP's in the 1903 Springfield rifle. These experiments were carried out at Springfield Armory in the early 1900s. I read this in one of Colonel Hatchers books while stationed at Parris Island in the early 1960s.This book was in the base library. There was no damage to the Springfield. The bullet evidently just swaged down and left the barrel.I can't remember more facts because the early 1960's were many moons ago.
Regards, Keith
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Not doubting you, Keith, but it simply doesn't seem posible.



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Unless I miss my guess, they wouldn't fire anyway. The '06 headspaces on the shoulder and that's been cut away. Ignition would be iffy at best. And the bullet swaging down to 30? I have real serious doubts about that too. That seems a bit much to expect. IMHO


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Hitman, it want be tried in my rifles either.

Jim, if you remember the Springfield has a Mauser extractor therefore it would hold the round back against the bolt.
I didn't witness the event. I am old but not that old but I do remember reading that in Hatcher's book and just thought that people would maybe be interested in what had occured many years ago. I just can not remember the title.
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Keith,

All that stuff is interesting; dangerous sometimes, but interesting.



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Yes a lead core bullet will genereal swage down and exit the barrel, but I doubt that a Barnes XPB bullet would swage enough to not be extremely dangerous. P.O Ackley shot larger diameter projectiles down smaller diameter barrels and they did swage down. I even seen a Mauser actioned 264 Win that 3 idiots fired a 30 cal projectile and that bullet also swaged down and exited without injuring either. The case ruptured and the excess gas blew out through the magazine.
I certainly do not recomend such actions nor would I do so.


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Welcome back, jwp!



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Welcome back. I've seen a few idiot served rifles as well. Try to avoid close contact with them when their presence is noticed.



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If I'm not mistaken Colonel Hatcher wrote about shooting 45 ACP's in the 1903 Springfield rifle. These experiments were carried out at Springfield Armory in the early 1900s. I read this in one of Colonel Hatchers books while stationed at Parris Island in the early 1960s.This book was in the base library. There was no damage to the Springfield. The bullet evidently just swaged down and left the barrel.I can't remember more facts because the early 1960's were many moons ago.
Regards, Keith
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Keith is correct. I have read that as well. I could not find it in "Hatchers Notebook",
but I have it in my library somewhere, I still have some stuff packed away.


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No one is doubting Keith's word on this. We just said we weren't gonna replicate the experience.



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No one is doubting Keith's word on this. We just said we weren't gonna replicate the experience.


Just be sure that you video tape it -- from a distance....... Big Grin



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Ackley conducted some experiments along the same lines but not oversized as much as this.


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look you can debate this for ever, somebody just go and do it and post the video
 
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Famous last words...


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It happens down here as well, many years back when firearms and ammo were hard to get, it was reasonably common for guys to fire 303 british rounds through 410 shotguns, and I've also heard of the odd bright spark putting 45 auto down 410's as well. the best I came up against was a guy who was explaining his reloading procedure for the 308 Win. " I just dip the case in the powder and fill it up." he say's.
"What powder?" I ask. "The one with the red lid." He replys. "Good luck with that." I tell him as I look for a way out of the conversation.
 
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Redhawk is usually in my shop at some point every day and during a bull session yesterday, a buddy of ours came in. After the usual session was about to break up, he asked us, "Do you guys know anyone who has a .45 automatic." We told him that we both do.

Then he tells us he has a "cannister" of ".45 auto shells" that a friend of his "made". He says that the guy took .30-06 cases, cut them down to .45 length and then loaded them.

Redhawk and I looked at each other trying to figure out this Chinese firedrill idea when he added: "Well, if I didn't find somebody, I was just going to shoot them off in my .30-06."

Both of our mouths dropped open at the same time I think and I finally asked him how he thought that would work. He said, "Well, they're .30-06 cases." "YEAH, but they're .45 caliber bullets."

Redhawk asked him to call us after he touched that first round off and we'd like to know if he wanted to try a second round.

Sort of sheepishly, he said, "Oh, I never thought about that." HERE'S YOUR SIGN.
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I once caught my brother-in-law buying 22 mags because he wanted more power from his rifle chambered for 22lr. He's been a sign carrier for years.


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Ackley was talking about action strength. He took a .270 caliber barrel and fit it to an Enfield. Then chambered it in 35 Whelen. Shot 275gr WTC .358 bullets thru it. He said they were about three inches long, but the rifle held. He also wrote that they tied it to a spare tire and used a loooooooooooooooon string.

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Keith1: I think the story goes that they were testing a rifle lenght barrel and were useing a 03 action with a 45ACP chambered 45cal barrel.
 
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I think you are all talking about Natural Selection at it's Best.
 
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Yeah, but problem is morons don't just shoot themselves.
 
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The list grows everyday for this year's Darwin Awards. Hope he doesn't make it
 
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Off the top of my head, Yes, the .451 Detonics was a cut down .308, or 30-06 case, so was the .44 auto mag, IIRC. Oddly, wasn't really any reason for the Detonics, since with their tight chambers, fully supported chamber, the standard .45 ACP brass worked just fine, provided it was sized right in the first place, and, wasn't shot in a Glock first...
 
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