440 Cor-Bon vs. 454 Casull

23 June 2002, 08:11

<Public Enemy>

Which is more powerful the 440 Cor-bon or the 454 Casull I need to know because I want to own the most powerful handgun you can buy so some asshole doesn't come up to me and say he has the most powerful handgun!It sounds dumb but I just want some answers. Thankyou! [Eek!]

23 June 2002, 08:32

Mingbogo

I believe taht neither one is the “most powerful handgun”. I am not sure such handgun exists. Why care so much about what other people say? That macho mentality does not prove a thing. Big bore revolvers are good for hunting and they are only good if you can shoot them accurately, assuming the gun is reasonable accurate. If you want to impress other fellow shooters, train your self to a point where you can shoot any handgun whether big or small consistently with a very small and tight grouping. Relax and have fun. Cheers! Ming

23 June 2002, 09:21

BER007

Public Enemy,

I think you miss smth, you ask what is the most powerful caliber between .440 and .454. But the real question is what is the fastest round ?

To reply to your question the most powerful handgun cartridge is the .500 LONG (also called .500 Linebaugh Maximum) you can't find more powerful.

regarding the 2 caliber the .440 Cor bon is just a .50 AE round neck down .429, the .454 has the same velocity thna .440 Corbon but with a bigger diameter. for me it is the .454 casull the fastest round.

23 June 2002, 09:43

Lloyd Smale

If you dont know enough about big bore hand guns to allready know the power level of some of these guns you certainly arent ready to own one yet. Get yourself a .44 mag and shoot 5000 rounds out of it and when the punch that it has with 300+grain hardcast bullets bores you then your ready to move up the ladder. Granted it doesnt take anyone special to shoot these big guns It sure takes a lot of dedication and practice to master one of them.

23 June 2002, 17:51

TheeBadOne

quote:
Originally posted by Lloyd Smale:
Granted it doesnt take anyone special to shoot these big guns. It sure takes a lot of dedication and practice to master one of them.

Very well said.

24 June 2002, 00:42

BER007

You need to know that most owners of big bore handguns download it nearly all the time.

Bullets whatever is the caliber and the weight are under 1000 fps.

There is no shame to shoot downloaded rounds out your big bore handguns. I never do it but I think it will be interresting for me to download just a little.

25 June 2002, 17:21

Karl

public enemy,
I like the way you think.No one here uses a bigbore to survive or feed on a daily basis so wanting to own the biggest just to say you have got it is no less valid a reason than any other.

HOWEVER, there is no such thing as a free lunch [Wink]

And here's why.

For every person like yourself who just wants to waltz in and buy up the biggest straight from the shop to impress his friends, there will be another guy who wants to modify it and will take the time and money and hassle to make it even bigger!

So it happens the most powerful 'commercial factory firearms' are always a long way behind the power of the crazy wildcats and custom creations people make.

Compare the 460 weatherby to the 585 nyati for one example.

If you wanted the highest energy "commercial, standard handgun, non rifle cartridge,off the factory floor revolver", yeah the 454 is probably it.

But 'most powerful' hands down?

.. Empty your wallet, take a deep breath and read these threads for about the next year [Smile]

Karl.

26 June 2002, 07:30

ScottB

Isn't the 50 Alaskan more powerful than the 500 long?

And then there's that BFR monstrosity in 450 Marlin Mag.

And I believe there are even stouter rounds in custom TCs or XPs.

Go on, get one! I'd rather get one I couldn't handle and download than waste money on one that wasn't powerful enough. And when they finally get this cloning down and the exotics in the private Texas Leases become things like Tyrannosaurs, I'll be glad I did!

26 June 2002, 10:04

BER007

ScottB,

All big bore rifle cartridges are great in a 24" barrel. If you use it in a T/C, BFR,... you'll lots of unburnt powder.

Check the velocity out of 6" barrel for .500 Long, and calculate the velocity witha 24" barrel. You'll be surprised to know velocity reach by a .500 long with this barrel.

For lots of shooter the .357 Mag is the max they can handle so why want more and more powerful handguns I don't know.

Gary Reeder is very surprised about the .500 Long ordered to his firm. He told that people can't imagine how is howful to shoot with that gun.

He guesses that a great part of owner of .500 long will sold it after the first shots. I can agree with this point of view.

01 July 2002, 00:55

DEPUTY450

Hey! How about the Magnum Research, BFR? I think this gun in 45-70 or 444 Marlin trumps all of the above listed round right? There is one in 45-70 at the local gun shop and it is HUGE! Makes my arm ache just looking at it.... Jay

01 July 2002, 03:08

BER007

DEPUTY450,

A .450 marlin is available too.

02 July 2002, 01:00

Karl

There's handguns all the way up to 50 BMG, 458 win mag and 600 nitro.You can go as far as you want.But for a revolver,staying with a cartridge designed for revolvers gives it some pedigree the way I see it.

Such calibres as the 500 linebaugh take into account the limited barrel length,weight and other restrictions of a revolver whilst trying to acheive maximum power.The others would give limited extra return for a lot of powder and weight gain.

This is what I am learning from Ber007 anyway [Big Grin]

Karl.

02 July 2002, 04:46

Sean

I talked to Gary Reeder and John Linebaugh at the Linebaugh Seminar. When the subject of a 50 Alaskan in a revolver came up they both just laughed. They said that in a handgun most of the powder wouldn't get burned, therefore making it pointless.

02 July 2002, 06:30

BER007

Sean,
I talked to Gary Reeder and John Linebaugh at the Linebaugh Seminar. When the subject of a 50 Alaskan in a revolver came up they both just laughed. They said that in a handgun most of the powder wouldn't get burned, therefore making it pointless.[/QUOTE]

Thanks you Sean. this is what I said many times when people wants to use rifle cartridges in a handgun.

02 July 2002, 06:33

BER007

Karl,
This is what I am learning from Ber007 anyway [/QUOTE]

Thanks my friend, but there is over there friends with better knowledge that me. I'm not the only one. I'm still learning too, and I'm happy to share the little I know.

02 July 2002, 08:09

Gunnut 45/454

Public enemy-fitting name

!
I think it's time to lay off the "Stacker" [Wink]

. But to answer your question -as you can see the 454 out paces the 440 buy a long shot!!! I have a SRH 454 More gun than I'll ever use-nuf said!

440 Cor-Bon Mag 240gr JHP 1800fps/1727ft/lbs 10.00in 23.75
440 Cor-Bon Mag 260gr BondedCore HP 1700fps/1670ft/lbs 10.00in 30.29
440 Cor-Bon Mag 305gr RN Penetrator 1600fps/1734ft/lbs 10.00in 30.50
454 Casull 240gr JHP 1450fps/1121ft/lbs 7.50in 23.92
454 Casull 265gr BondedCore HP 1800fps/1907ft/lbs 7.50in 29.58
454 Casull 285gr BondedCore SP 1700fps/1829ft/lbs 7.50in 29.58
454 Casull 300gr JSP 1650fps/1814ft/lbs 7.50in 26.75
454 Casull 320gr FP Penetrator 1600fps/1816ft/lbs 7.50in 30.29
454 Casull 335gr HardCast 1600fps/1905ft/lbs 7.50in 26.85
454 Casull 360gr FP Penetrator 1500fps/1800ft/lbs 7.50in 30.29