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I carried one for several years back in the early 90s (A 19) and was extremely happy with it. Now, when reading through message boards, it either is not mentioned at all, or it is maligned.

What's the deal? What, precisely, is wrong with the Glock?

I'm kind of thinking of getting a Glock 20, (It's either that or a Witness) but anxiously await the opinions of someone who has shot one.
 
Posts: 1128 | Location: Iowa, dammit! | Registered: 09 May 2003Reply With Quote
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I like Glock pistols. They are the rugged simplicity. I've got a 17, 20, 21, and 22. The 20 is a fine handgun. I was shooting some 200gr PMC out of it at 70 yards, point of impact was point of aim. The only thing I've done to mine is replace the plastic issue sights with tritiums. But you can buy them with the tritium sights as an option.

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Theres nothing wrong with the Glocks I prefer the 20 in 10mm only second to the Colt Delta Elite, that is until I get to try the Dan Wesson in 10mm [Wink]
 
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Glocks don't feel right in my hand and don't point right, like a 1911 or Sig does. I like the Witness pistols. I've had two in 9mm, the wife loves hers in 9mm. I sold another , carry comp in 45, it was a sweet shooting gun also. If a Glock shoots good for you, then I don't see any reason not to get one. The torture test on them have been pretty impressive.
 
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There seems to be a love/hate relation with glocks. As far as Kboom problems, while certain design features may not be the best,poor reloading procedures seems to be the problem.
 
Posts: 7636 | Registered: 10 October 2002Reply With Quote
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I took my 20 to the range yesterday. As I was sitting and wiping it down last night, I thought the same thing, "wonder why they're not mentioned more on the forums?" I was marveling at the pure genious of it's design, something that never fails to strike me, no matter how many hundreds of times I've taken the gun apart.

Like Montana Marine, I've shot the 200gr PMC lead loads at extended ranges. At 100 yds, it would put 10 rnds in a six inch circle around the bullseye (from a rest, but with rather "fat" open sights). I've been told it's not good to shoot the hard cast lead bullets due to the polygonal rifling, though? It took me months to get the fouling out after a few hundred of those.

It's my opinion that the Glock is the finest handgun ever made, period. It doesn't fit some people's hands, so they should shoot something else. That's a terrible twist of fate for them, though!
 
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Lots of people just don't like plastic guns period. I was a late convert to Glocks as I shot 1911 Cocked & Locked for 25 yrs prior to the G21 coming out. In people's minds, the G's have been seen as only good for shooting people by gangsta's and other scum. [Roll Eyes]
 
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My next handgun will be for CCW, and it will be a Glock 36. After that, a Glock 21. I will buy no other brands.
 
Posts: 2206 | Location: USA | Registered: 31 August 2002Reply With Quote
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16 rounds of 10MM in an ultra light weight, super durable and rock solid reliable package.

The GLock 20.

It's the best handgun, ever.

If it doesn't fit your hand? Hate to be you.

If you just can't get over the fact that the gun doesn't have wood grips and a metal frame?
Sorry.

Just get the 20.

The only downside (and it's a pretty big downside) is that preban mags for Glock 20's can be brutally expensive, with fully metal lined preban mags being in the stratosphere.
 
Posts: 101 | Location: MD, CT, DE, ME, DC, sometimes NY, but never NJ | Registered: 07 April 2003Reply With Quote
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I'm willing to look at some stratospheric mags. How stratospheric, and where would you find them? I still have at least 4 months to think about it, but I'm still leaning heavily toward 10mm, and will get either the Glock 20 or the EAA Witness.
 
Posts: 1128 | Location: Iowa, dammit! | Registered: 09 May 2003Reply With Quote
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I have no regrets over buying my Glock 20.
I've used it on one deer so far with the factory barrel and ProLoad 180 grain Gold Dots. No complaints.
 
Posts: 233 | Location: Solebury, PA | Registered: 20 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Glock
Don't fit the hand-To expensive for what they are! I can buy two Rugers to one Glock! [Big Grin] Tumperware just don't me!! [Roll Eyes] I like Rugers Better!!! Any thing else?
 
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I competed with a 17L for a long time and it was great. The only time it ever jammed on me was when I hadn't cleaned it for about 1000 rounds and the gunk built up in it. Even with that, it only did it once.
Besides the cheap sights, the only drawback I can see is that you can't "limp wrist" it. If you don't have a good solid grasp on it with a stiff wrist, there may not be enough stability for the recoil to completely cycle the action and it will stovepipe rounds or fail to feed. I didn't have the problem, but a female friend of mine had it happen to her a couple of times when we were trying guns out for her on the range. She corrected the problem, but bought the CZ compact instead.
 
Posts: 3942 | Location: Kansas USA | Registered: 04 February 2002Reply With Quote
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I love my Glock 20, and 17, and 21, and 26 - none of them will ever leave my collection. I shot the 1911s, and Rugers before I recived a Glock 17 as a wedding gift - talk about a smooth action and quick recovery and target aquisition for subsequent shots. I figured I just got lucky, then decided to get a Glock 20 and try it out, I wanted something in an auto that would be legal for deer in my state - I had used the 1911 45 ACP but it is only legal with +P loads - so I decided on the 10 mm and since the Glock is at the top of the 10 mm market that is what I got. I kind of expected it to recoil quite a bit since it is so light - wow was I pleasantly surprised, almost as smooth as the Glock 17 and much easier to shoot than the 1911 45 ACP, and with more power than either. I have actually been thinking about getting one of the 6 inch hunting barrels for mine just to squeeze out a little more velocity, not that it is really necessary. [Razz]
 
Posts: 14 | Location: South Dakota | Registered: 23 July 2003Reply With Quote
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If you don't like the way a Glock feels and you are use to a 1911 , I believe that Robar does a restyling to that shape. Anyway someone does!
 
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I think the main problem is no-one hunts with them [Wink]
 
Posts: 562 | Location: Houston Tx | Registered: 23 October 2002Reply With Quote
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The only guy I know of that hunts with a Glock is Ted Nugent and he only uses it every now and then. Whenever he hunts, he uses the G20 as his back-up, whether he bow-hunts or whatever. Glocks are generally 3" 25 yd guns and for hunting, they need to be 1" or less 25 yd guns. As Elmer Keith said a long time ago, most guns that shoot less than 1"@25 yds are generally accurate at longer ranges with HEAVY LOADS.
[Cool] [Big Grin] [Razz] [Razz]
 
Posts: 2034 | Registered: 14 June 2003Reply With Quote
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When the Glock first appeared on the market, I was taken back to the time when I was issued an M-16. Plastic and Steel. I couldn't believe my beloved Marine Corps would arm me and my brothers with such a cheap feeling weapon. A few years later, after the initial chill of the plasitc and steel pistol subsided, I had the chance to tear one of the plastic beast down and stare into it's heart. The next day, me and a very close friend ordered ourselves matching Glock 22's.

Mine has yet to draw blood though it is carried everywhere with me ready to go at a seconds notice. His, was used in the line of duty to free himself along with some 15 other hostages, who were in the act of drawing straws to see who would be the first to die, at the very moment my friend drew his Glock and sent the asshole to hell with 5 solid hits.

This could have been done with almost any handgun, but it was done with the Glock, and when stuff like that happens, it makes those who carry them, believers.

Having owned, and worked on damned near every pistol immaginable, The Glock is like the Maytag. And as a former Glock armorer I felt just like you would expect the Maytag repair man to feel like. When things don't fail or break, it gets both quiet and boring...

If I were to go back in combat today and could carry only one sidearm, I would not hesitate to carry the Glock. From a tactical stand point, the less moving parts, the better. I believe in the built in safeties of the Glock rather than external manual types, where in the heat of battle, can trip you up if you're not on game. I like and believe in it's design so much, that I have armed my wife and other immediate family members who wish to carry, with Glocks...

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Don't forget, the only safety that is absolutely necessary is BETWEEN YOUR EARS!! Regarding the dude who ND'd while reholstering with his finger on the trigger, he must have been in CONDITION ZERO when safety and reholstering was in class.

[Roll Eyes] [Eek!]
 
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HI,

I Have a G22, and by the way Arizona Response Systems, will also reshape your Glock to fit your hand.I think all of us have heard about the KA-boom with some Glocks, I experenced one with my G22, and was not shooting lead out of it when it happen. I replaced the barrel with a Bar-sto and it has been perfect. How is the G20 with the Ka-booms, as I have never heard it happening to them?.The next handgun when I get one would be a G20, but I will have a Bar-sto barrel in it. Kev
 
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I have a Glock 22 that I shoot in matches with I can also trade barrels and shoot the 357 Sig with it. The 357 Sig isn't considered major so in matches I shoot 40 S&W.
 
Posts: 2209 | Location: Delaware | Registered: 20 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Love / Hate it is. I have a G22, seen 24 000 rounds at least. All stock. I also shoot lead without problems but it took a while to find the slowest powder without compressing too much.

No leading then. VV 3N38 for hotter cast loads. N 110 works too but is hard to compress enough. Gives good 175 grain plinking loads just around 1000 fps though. But it�s difficult to load.

Anyway, I have KB:d the old G22 on purpose twice and it took a 40% overload with VV 3N37 after I had already KB:d it with a 50% overload. The magazine latch was already broken. Then,the 40% overload broke the slide release latch.

$5 for the parts,a few minutes to repair, all the pressure escaped through the magazine both times. I still use the mag -after finding the parts and simply assembling it for the third time. Do the same with a steel frame and look for your fingers.

Done similar stuff with a vise and fishing line before,I knew how it will KB. They even KB safe, that is a big friggin�bonus in the real life when the barrel is full of mud etc.

I do not "like" Glocks but this G22 has been through Hell And High Water and I will always have one Glock at least. I bought it for a very cheap price, out of curiosity... it came used with a IPSC rig that fit me. Many hi-cap mags. Hard to argue with the facts that I have witnessed in five,six years. It is totally beaten up,works like a clock.

It shoots and feeds everything unless the round is simply too long. Takes some serious effort to KB one, I shoot nice 10mm factory level loads with it quite a lot. Also,some cast loads have unbelievable accuracy, ES almost zero.

I do not recommend overloading. Neither smoking. I do both,though. [Razz]

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Getting carried away. Gotta start a 10 mm thread now, got a mint S&W 1006 just a week ago. [Big Grin]
 
Posts: 81 | Location: Finland | Registered: 10 May 2003Reply With Quote
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I have two Glocks, a pre-ban 21 and 26. Both are highly accurate, but are a little picky with ammo. But Glock does state do not use reloaded ammo, and only jackected ammo. So stick with the stuff it likes and never a problem.IMO
 
Posts: 653 | Location: Juneau, Alaska | Registered: 09 February 2001Reply With Quote
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A buddy's G20 is one accurate pistol!
 
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120mm: I worked with 1,200 people who carried Glock's of various models all in caliber 40 S&W for quite a number of years. Failure rate right next to zero and universally accurate and dependable - go with the Glock. One Glock equals 10 Rugers of any model! Let me put it another way I would not trade my personalized Glock for 10 Rugers of ANY model!
I think the the Glock 22 in 40 S&W with night sights and a total of 3 high capacity magazines is one of the finest urban battle weapons ever devised!
I have swam with mine on my hip then came out of the water and shortly thereafter as a test resubmerged the pistol and it test fired perfectly the instant it came out of the water. I could recount dozens of tough situations I am aware of where the Glock came through with flying colors but not today!
Its what I trust and carry now that I am partially retired. I could, carry anything now, on the body guard and robbery suppression assignments I do for extra money - but the Glock always goes with me on assignment!
Reliable, dependable, simple, quick to use, rugged, lots of firepower (with the high cap mags) and accurate! The Glock lacks nothing!
Hold into the wind
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