I hear you guys with alot of handgun hunting experience swearing by cast bullets, I know the big, flat meplat, sharp shoulder cast bullets are the ticket. I just don't know what brand to go with. I have not loaded cast bullets since the 80's. They were a nightmare with all the lead fouling, so I have'nt touched them since. But with so many on AR useing them with good luck I want to give them a shot again.

I found these http://www.midwayusa.com/viewP...productNumber=953089


Thats a good looking bullet! A 310 grain with a gas check for my .44 got my attention. Any experience with Oregon Trail Trueshots? If not what would you recomend for a .44 Mag. I reload but do not cast my own. I'm all ears. DD

I shoot Oregon Trail trueshots in my custom Ruger Bisley Hunter in 410GNR using 255gr GC. Very good bullets.

It's an LBT style bullet. I cast mine from wheelweights. Silver is just too expensive.

I like Cast Performance bullets.....

I brought a lee mold for my 44 it cast a 315gr bullet when using wheel weights dropped into water from the mold. Gas checked shot at 1250fps no leading trouple killed several big hogs with it works well.

And the best part it is cheap.

Montana Bullet Works,Penn Bullets,Hunters Supply,Cast Performance,Rim Rock have all been good with timely service and good quality bullets.

I shot a 110lb ish doe with my .38-40 using one of the Montana Bullet Works 200 grain LFN at 55 yards. Bullet went clean through her and it was only going 1,300 fps at the muzzle. my revolver likes that bullet.

I've used Lasercast bullets in a .44Mag, a 45 Colt and in a 10mm with great accuracy.

I have used just their regular Silver cast bullet with a claimed BRN of 24. Very hard to say the least, but I don't have the equipment to test for hardness.

I've driven a 300 gain from them at 1372 fps in a 44Mag without leading. That shooter is well broken in.

I would think that the ones with the gas checks would be even better.

You can buy their bullets that are over 300 grains in a quantity of 50 directly from them and it runs around $13/50 (includes shipping) for the 44mag 300grain. At that price why not get a 50 of both designs and see which one is more accurate in your shooter.

The boolit should be OK at .430" but a Ruger on the average is better served with .431" to .432" depending on the throat and bore sizes.
My experience with Laser Cast has been many of those I tried were under size. I sent for free samples long ago for other calibers and was disappointed in the accuracy but it is hard to beat an LBT style.
There is nothing wrong with a lot of their boolit styles or even the alloy but they would do better if they offered an assortment of diameters in each caliber. To sell nothing but .457" boolits for the 45-70 when most bores run .458" to .461" assures poor accuracy.
I would give them a try in a .44 because a .430" boolit shoots decent from my .430" bore.
They make beautiful boolits but like a Lyman or RCBS mold, it is hard to find one the right diameter.
Most package or bulk boolits are wrong to fit all guns and those with a bevel base need melted down and made into good boolits.
Doubledown, you should really cast! Done right, you will get no leading and accuracy that will beat any bullet made. The .44 is a real killer too with cast.
Fellas here and at Cast Boolits will help you start.
Just to show you, I made a mold to copy the LBT WLNGC and it came out 330 gr because I changed the nose to fit my forcing cone. I sighted for 75 yards and wanted to measure drop at 200 yards so I shot three only. Can you imagine my surprise to have the three shots in 1-5/16" at 200? That with a red dot too!

Hey, don't ask me to ever do it again but you don't know what you are missing.
Then a cast boolit from one of my molds shot at 50 yards from Whitworths .500 JRH, only three shots because we were working loads. Whitworth asked were the other two shots went and I had to show him they were in the same hole!

One bad experience is one too many and you should have never quit because of that. Join the grease ball crowd to find what you are missing.

Doubledown, this is a bunch of groups shot with all kinds of boolits at 50 yards and the lineup shows them. This revolver has not had the bore cleaned in over three years, I clean the cylinder pin and hole now and then and put more STP to prevent wear. Nothing is shot less then 50 yards, the gun will shoot less then 1" at 100 and I have clanged steel rams at 500 meters (547 yards.) My best group was 4 shots in 2-1/2" at 500 yards.
Your bad experience is from bought boolits that do not fit.

Not true, I asked where the third shot went......

Maybe you missed......

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Not true, I asked where the third shot went...... Wink

Maybe you missed......

Do I miss?
I feel so bad when a guy is afraid of cast boolits. The best way is to show him. I don't want to lose anyone because of poor boolits or a bad experience. I want to help in any way I can.
Between you, me, JWP, Bioman and a bunch of others, we need to help him back into the fold and explain what he had can be overcome and even though jacketed works fine, so can lead.
I have a friend that I worked with for about 40 years. He refused to shoot lead and called them "grease balls". What confuses me is that he shot lead in muzzle loaders!!!!

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Originally posted by bfrshootero I miss?

Occasionally we all miss......

I appericiate all the help, I had a bad experience with cast bullets because I drove them WAY too fast. BUT not having anyone to guide me the bullets might have been the wrong size for my bore, and I have no idea how hard or soft they were.

I was a young Jarhead reloading off base in a buddys trailer . I know they were too hot because one day when I could'nt get the cylinder open after firing 6 shots in my model 29, I sent it back to S&W for repair and they sent me a letter stating that they fixed my revolver but...wanted to know what load I was useing because in the history of S&W they had never seen one of there revolvers fail the way mine did, I bent the frame. Not proud just a young Jarhead, and lucky to still be here. I wish I kept that letter!

Any way that was a long time ago, I have a little more sense now and I'm going to give those grease balls another shot. So I will be bothering you guys from time to time, thanks DD.

It's generally not possible to fire a cast bullet too fast in a handgun. I've shot cast at 2000 fps from a 10" contender, with no leading, and 1500 fps from revolvers.

What is a problem is cast bullets that are undersized, too hard for the application, poor lubes, or too soft for the application. Commercial cast bullets often fail for one or more of the above reasons.

You don't really save any money by casting your own, but you do have the ability to cast a bullet for your gun and application, and that bullet will provide excellent accuracy and no appreciable leading.

I don't shoot commercial cast bullets because I just don't have the control I need over sizing, alloy and lube.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
I like Cast Performance bullets.....

I have found them to be extremely accurate in my GP100 .357, but haven't made anything dead with them yet. I will be getting some for my .44 soon also.