Hi Kids ;

Hows everyone doing ??? Everyone make it thru all the recent tag team matches ,?? or has there been peace in the valley ??? ....

George , I got a kick out of the "The SIGN" . .. It,s amazing what some people might do .

Anyway There was a young guy at the range the other day with a 4" 500 X frame . When I first saw him shoot it , I thot it was a 460 shooting 454 ammo as it seemed so mild in the blast and recoil . But it was the factory loaded 275 gr XPB loads ... We got to talking and he had taken black bear with the 440 gr cast CorBon factory loads. He said the exit hole was about 4-5" dia as the bullet cut/smashed off the ball and socket of the off side shoulder and pushed it out thru the meat and skin of the shoulder .. they found it laying on the ground ..... The bear was DRT.

Any way .He was wondering about the 700 grain bullets ,, he shoots the 500 grain bullets alot .but really wants to try the 700 gr .. ?????????? I told him they probably wern,t all that necessary .but told him to check out this forum .. He lives remote so I don,t know if he has puter access ???

Seems like Redhawk had mentioned those 700 gr bullets ...?? Any info any one ??

Hello back! There are several guys here who have used the 700 grain Ranger Rick bullets and they report good things. Haven't heard how they stabilize out past 25 yards, but am waiting to hear about that. I know that 440 grainer works like gangbusters, but to me at least, the 700 seems like a bit too much of a good thing -- but I don't speak from experience about those bullets. They are so long that they really eat up a lot of case capacity, limiting velocity and if your twist isn't compatible. There seems to be a point of dimishing returns with regards to bullet weight.

Redhawk? DEC? Where are you guys? You can shed some light on this situation.

have loaded Rick's Bullets for some time, including the 700's.

The "recommended" load is a handful, especially out of the shorty.
(I have both the first gen. 8 3/8 small upward break and the no break 2 3/4 " Beasty.

No issues in stability (other than stabilizing what's left of my wrist ) (wear a brace with the 2 3/4").

I load 275,350,370,440,500 and the 700's.
Very versatile round.

http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

I shot mine with 600 grs (Mountain Mould design)too much wrist pain, no stability issues, but at Maxi. charge low velocity 1200 fps with W-W-296, super-accurate, I prefer stay on 400 grs at 1800 fps.Regards.Guille

John Ross Mentions them in his article, or one of them, on the 500. There's a company, who's name I've forgotten, which makes a load using them, but they think that the 4" barrel is too small -- yet another reason that I need an 8" model... well, that, and it'll fit in my briefcase...

I have shot a few of them in my 8 3/8 inch barreled 500 Mag as well as my 4 in S&W 500 Mag, my BFR I only went out to 25 yards with them.

In my S&W's they shot great out to 50 yards, I did not do any real long distance shooting with them.

I have 2 loads I use. The hot loads is at 1200 fps and a real handful. But I would not want to be the one hit with that big slug. Now I also load one in the 850 fps range, and it is actually fun to shoot, again I would not want to get hit with that thing.

To tell you the truth, and I am sure most of you will already know this, a 440 gr. hard cast out of the 500 Mag will kill anything on this planet that walks.

A 700 gr. is not needed, but fun to show people and let them shoot them.

Redhawk worked up a load for mine using the 575 grain hard cast and I simply love it for hunting. It does some very nasty things to bears that are too close for comfort. I do LOVE the 700 grainers though. I ask him to make sure I have at few on hand for me when I go to the range. When I start shooting, invariably someone is going to want to "try" the gun out. It's worth every penny to load a couple 700's in there and watch their face when that thing goes off. I usually put an empty case next to it though as having experienced one "doubler" in my life was quite enough to witness.

Words kind of escape me .., A 700 grain bullet from a revolver @ 1200 fps Too much IMO . Sounds like a load for Safari Kid .........

Yes it is not a load for the common 500 Mag shooter..

I have used the 700 gr T-Rex bullets for years. I load them up with LILGUN in my 500 and they clock at 1238 fps avg. You WILL know when these go off!

I keep raising the issue of stability because this is a REALLY long bullet. I would love to know how it groups at 50-yards +. Call it curiosity. It should prove to be a real hammer!

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Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Yes it is not a load for the common 500 Mag shooter..

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, The COMMON ,500 S&W shooter ?? So far I consider the 500 S&W to be pretty over the top just as is ......
However I am beginning to think that a 400 gr load @ 1200-1400 fps would be pretty handy and should be a very good killer........ The BFR I was playing around with last winter wasn,t any heavier than my FA 454 that I could tell , but the bullet is alot wider .... I really like the free wheeling cylinder ... But I need my wrist to make a living working for the rest of my life to go torching off a 700 gr bullet @ 1200 fps .... Thanks tho

Whitworth, I tend to agree with you though I was never froggy enough to try and group those tank killers. Just a mite too much to be playing around with. I was shooting at a target at 50 yards and DID have some "irregular" punch marks on the target. I sense they were trying to keyhole at that distance.

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Originally posted by george roof:
Whitworth, I tend to agree with you though I was never froggy enough to try and group those tank killers. Just a mite too much to be playing around with. I was shooting at a target at 50 yards and DID have some "irregular" punch marks on the target. I sense they were trying to keyhole at that distance.

Yeah, probably not really pleasant off the bench! Again, just seems like too much of a good thing to me -- but, I may be wrong!

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700 grain bullets

Absolute foolishness -- no handgun is made to handle them well and there's no advantage to them even if the guns were built to shoot them well.

On the other hand, much of what's enjoyable in life is foolishness -- so, if the big lead turns anyone on, enjoy the hell out of it -- it's a harm-free vice.

.. I can see a 500 gr bullet . I may even end up using some if I get a 500 @ 12-1400 fps , I can see how they would be a real Hogs head of clobber , maybe several .... At least I,m not alone with thinking the 700 are a little much ..

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Originally posted by gumboot458:
.. I can see a 500 gr bullet . I may even end up using some if I get a 500 @ 12-1400 fps , I can see how they would be a real Hogs head of clobber , maybe several .... At least I,m not alone with thinking the 700 are a little much ..

Far from being alone. The most effective factory load I have seen in .500 Linebaugh slings a 525 grain WFN at 1,150 fps. It's a penetrating fool.

Whitworth ; Do you have a picture of that bullet ??. I,ve found there are some very different bullets in either .500 or .510 ........

I do, but it'll have to wait till this evening for me to post it.

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Originally posted by OldHandgunHunter:

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700 grain bullets

Absolute foolishness -- no handgun is made to handle them well and there's no advantage to them even if the guns were built to shoot them well.

On the other hand, much of what's enjoyable in life is foolishness -- so, if the big lead turns anyone on, enjoy the hell out of it -- it's a harm-free vice.

The bullets I use the most in my 500 Mag are the 370 and 440 gr. I don't use the 700 gr. for anything but show or if someone thinks there a bad ass.

I don't see a need for anything bigger for game. When the bullet goes through the animal how much more penetration do I need if I have complete pass through with a 370 or 440 gr. hard cast bullet?

My 475 Linebaugh uses 400 gr. bullets and shoots them well, my 510 GNR is doing great with 350 gr. bullets.

700 gr T-rex loaded and not.

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Originally posted by POP:


700 gr T-rex loaded and not.

Yikes!

I hated metrics before I hated Jimmy Carter, but I was never any good with conversion of "things" to understandable "things'. But just in case anyone would like to know, a 700 grain bullet weighs in at a whopping 1.6 ounces. That's heavier than a 12 gauge Lightfield Hybrid shotgun slug which only weights 1.25 ounces. Get the picture??? LMAO

I can't stand Jimmy Carter either!!!

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Originally posted by MS Hitman:
I can't stand Jimmy Carter either!!!

Wait a minute, isn't Carter in office now?