LAR45I put a post on another 454 thread on this, and do not what what it costs you for wc820, but a guy pointed out a site that sells it for 56 bucks for an 8 pounder of new and 48 for an 8 pounder of pull down. As I say, you may be buying it cheaper then that already, but it seems like a real good price to me, and just thought I would pass it on. Bob