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I have briefly handled one of these but I cant recall if they come drilled and tapped for scope mount from the factory. I briefly looked at midway usa and did not locate a scope mount. Just wondering. Thanks | ||
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The revolvers are drilled and tapped and also come with a great base. | |||
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+ 1 "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Thank you for your information and quick reply. | |||
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from the pics from bfr i would say they don't shoot worth a darn.He don't seem to want shoot unless a 100 yards or more DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR | |||
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Yeah, you're so right! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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And BFR will sell you one if needed. | |||
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Have to dig up my casket to make me part with a BFR! | |||
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Not you, Jim, BFR -- as in the company, BFR or Magnum Research....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I was speaking to the scope base the OP questioned. | |||
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I know, but could not pass that up! | |||
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Then, I too, agree. | |||
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Yes all the newer moders come drilled and tapped, when I bought my BFR 500 Mag in 2003, I had to get it drilled and tapped... If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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BFR always makes me think of Big F*%king Revolver. Sorry can't help it. LOL The things you see when you don't have a gun. NRA Endowment Life Member Proud father of an active duty Submariner... Go NAVY! | |||
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bfrshooter; You are one of the NICEST GUYS!!! Thanks for the offer on the BFR. You don't have a bad cold or anything do ya????? Sorry...........I couldn't resist. Have a good one Jim. | |||
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I really wouldnt waste money on a scope for a BFR. According to "bfrshooter" (and he said this in a post on another thread), you can lay that gun down and if it goes off it will hit what you want it to hit...the only negative factor with BFR accuracy is the fella holding it. Because I believe everything bfrshooter says, I would just let the gun do its thing, and stay out of it all together. | |||
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Yep, it is that accurate! But so is the SRH. Here is a post I made at Cast Boolits. The mighty Super Redhawk My friend came to re sight his SRH, 44. He wanted it at 100 yards. I set up targets and he shot a bunch but was pulling shots left or high. He has a nice variable Loopy and was shooting my load of the Cast Performance 320 gr LBT WLNGC with 21.5 gr of 296 and the Fed 150 primer. He asked me to shoot it and I had a 3/4" group but a little low, right. Two graduations up and left centered me. He still shot left so I watched him. The gun was showing torque and uneven barrel rise. I also found he was putting his finger too deep into the trigger. I hit him with the billy club a few times, it helped! The SRH needs a firm grip, stop letting it do what it wants to do! I set up a bottle and shot it dead center. He shot it a little left yet but close enough for deer. Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version Name: SRH.jpg Views: 0 Size: 38.4 KB ID: 27787 | |||
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Picture didn't come through so I put it on Photo bucket. | |||
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I can list revolvers in order of accuracy and the loads that are accurate, grip shapes that are sensitive and hard to shoot for accuracy and on and on but I might irritate a few. Be assured that if everything the shooter does is perfect, the BFR's and the SRH's are fully capable of 2" or less at 200 yards. For those that are happy with 2" at 25 yards, just suck it up and learn how to load. Maybe learn how to shoot. | |||
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bfr; I have a SBH and two RH's....and you are correct, they must be "driven"...not allowed to drive themselves. My "Old Blue" Redhawk is the most accurate of the lot.....I have actually shot better 1000 yard groups than most Benchrest shooters! | |||
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The RH has two problems, the grip that needs held perfect and the spring system. That does not mean the gun is not accurate because it really is. I just feel it is a little harder to control then the SRH. Now the SBH is the easiest for me but they never seem to be as accurate due to chamber, throat and bore dimensions. But you said 1000 yards, do you mean 100? I have never shot a revolver past 500 meters (547 yards.) and I have out shot many, many rifles. If you look, you can see Pete's hole in the bottle a little low left of my hole. Pete has a shake problem with his body. He really quivers a lot and I just don't know how he shoots as good as he does. He was so nervous at the first IHMSA shoot I took him to that when he needed another round in his TC, he got a chapstick and tried to chamber it. He still did very well. | |||
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I have reworked a good number of Redhawks...they can be just as sweet an iron as anything else out there....the Blackhawks can be "fixed" if need be as well. I have never bought a factory gun yet that has met my standards...but, a little time and effort can turn them into real jewels! No, I said 1000 (one-thousand) yards. A number of years ago I put 5 shots in a tad over 5" at 1000 yards...with iron sights....probably just lucky. Used my 44 mag Blackhawk when it had a 5 1/2" barrel.....maybe thats why...it WAS a 44 mag. | |||
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Flat top, if you would switch to the BFR revolver you could cut those groups in half. You know that is true, haven't you read as much on the internet? We all know why the MIGHTY 44 MAG is the king of all revolver rounds in the killing fields, because of it's perfect velocity........ No doubt that the supreme accuracy of the MIGHTY 44 is above the pack at 1000 yards...... _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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JWP; The 44 mag needs no magic velocity...simply because it is the 44 mag. I am sure that if I switched to the BFR, my carpal tunnel syndrome would flare up more often than not. This would cause me to need shooting sticks to shoot that gun. I cannot shoot with shooting sticks and expect to hit anything at 1000 yards...I shoot that distance off hand, because I am more accurate that way. I have heard, and I dont know if this is true (you know how rumors get started), that the BFR is not really a good handgun because it is so darn BIG and HEAVY. I do prefer a standard weight handgun, especially for shooting at 1000 yards...and, I dont have to use shooting sticks to do it. Yes, the 44 mag is a very accurate cartridge...but, when I shoot 1000 yards I use my "magic" bullets. They are not really magic, but, they are made of a material whose compound I cannot mention in public discourse. If you will send me a PM, I will email a photo of the magic bullet to you....with a description of the metallurgy I use to make them. But, you must not give anybody the "specifics" of the information I relay to you. | |||
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A hard cast bullet works at all normal velocities. Your claims are hillarious and "hollywood" love them _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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A picture of the "Magic Bullet" that Flat top was refering. While I can not devulge the materil make up of this bullet and how it chnges the hardness for any and all impact velocities while in the air traveling to the target I will say that person protective equipment must be worn to prevent contamination when loading and shooting these "Magic Bullets" These "magic Bullets" makes any velocity range becaome the "magic velocity" _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Looks like a silly semi wad cutter to me. How do you get accuracy? Can a 100 yard group be made or shown? You know I will not believe anything. How about 200? | |||
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I also read "all normal velocities" and have a hard time knowing what is meant. Is that 500 to 3000 fps? | |||
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about 800 FPS to not much over 1400 FPS The shape of the "magic bullet" is not important it is the material composition that produces the magic effect and only in 44 mag caliber _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I am busy here trying to finish up building a rifle...time is at a premium...but, I will mention that this bullet actually "gains" momentum as it moves down range....thus, it produces the "magic" (its not really magic...its physics) velocity. | |||
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And all this time I thought it was voodoo....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Not "voodoo" Whit...physics. When a bullet leaves the barrel of a firearm, the friction coefficient of the bullet riding the bore is deminished. At that exact moment the bullet picks up velocity. The composition of the "magic bullet" (again, it is not magic), takes advantage of the reduction in friction and the instantaneous increase in velocity at that point in the bullets flight, and enertializes those two compounding factors to produce an increase in down range momentum. This improves the trajectory/velocity of the bullet. The material composition of the magic bullet has shown remarkable performance....but, going back to basic physics, it does not last forever....eventually the bullet slows and the trajectory drops off....but, it does take a bit for it to do that. shooting at 1000 yards with this bullet can be likened to shooting at 200 yards with a standard cast bullet. This is why I could shoot groups and distances as I have stated above. Maybe someday this technology will be available to the general public, but, at this point in time it is nothing more than a futuristic pipe dream, that only a few have had the opportunity to experience. | |||
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I have heard muted mumbling about these bullets and your 1,000 yard shooting prowess......I am not worthy...... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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............whit; Anybody that can touch off a heavily loaded .500..........IS WORTHY!!! | |||
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Why thank you, sir! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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My boolits contain rocket fuel that keeps velocity and energy the same to 1,000,000 meters too. Since it takes time to gain speed, it is the same at the muzzle as it is downrange. The fuel is a secret mix that does not reduce boolit weight as it burns. Weight is replaced by byproducts that weigh more then the fuel. Gas ratio is controlled so the boolit is at the same velocity at all times. The chip in the nose will regulate lead hardness when it impacts different size animals based on their inertia. If it misses it will circle until it can hit when brush is clear. Then the boolit has a mixture that sprays the ground with tracking fluid that can be seen by satellite and program a GPS unit. Over penetration is not an issue because the boolit will hover over the animal to sustain a trail. | |||
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Too bad that bullet is outside the "magic velcoity" range and will not kill as well as the secret bullet that Flat top developed. Flat tops bullet will not go above or below the magic velocity range and knocks the nads right off of game so no tracking is needed. The way it flattens an ass shot Animal is a sight to behold _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I understand that it is not advisable to wear blue when sneaking up on a deer. Is this true? "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Blue make it difficult to sneak up for that ass shot _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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