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It's ugly as sin, but you can put a weaver rail on a revolver and not lose your rear sight. Not an off the shelf option either. | |||
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I use a leupold 3x-9x always cranked to max, and I believe the aperture is 40mm. I had a simmons 4x fixed and it was alright, but the recoil caused the reticle to turn inside the scope. I returned it and had fixed, and then I sold it to someone here, I think it was twillis. The 9x really REALLY made me a better shooter because it required me to develop way more control. Incidentally, I don't see how someone who is an international level IHMSA shooter can make claims about a scope hindering skill, even with rimfire; if it were a hindrance they would not keep the classes separate. And as far as big bore, I have never seen a red dot smaller than 4MOA and that is on a pretty expensive rig. 4MOA is worse than a good sight, and a scope is much finer than that at 200m. I don't see how anyone can shoot better at 200m open sighted unless they haven't learned some discipline needed to improve with a scope. I was like that when I first scoped mine, but after a few months I started breaking my previous (really low teens) plateaus. I never was too great when I quit but I was over 20 standing, which was a long ways from where I started. I believe my best was 23. Freakin turkeys...  | |||
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Scott, I am talking off hand only. I shot a 31 off hand with my SBH and open sights. ( I lost the match to a lady with a TC and open sights.) I can equal it with a red dot. I can with a 1X scope too. Please bring your 9X over and show me a thing or two! I don't think you want to shoot against me from bags or Creedmore, open sights or any scope. I even offer you an advantage. You shoot a .357 or .44 and I will shoot my .475. You had best talk to Whitworth some more. I think his shooting will teach you a thing or two. He has surpassed me because I am almost 72. I don't think you can out shoot him off hand. You hate turkeys!  Why? A mental problem is why so tell me how a strong scope is NOT a mental problem! If you cured the strong scope, what is wrong with the turkeys???? I once shot 10 turkeys when my sights were off. I hit all ten in the FOOT! My spotter told me and I said the heck with it, good enough. Turkeys are EASY! Come shoot 500 meters with me. | |||
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A scope will be great .... I,ll scope it . Maybe a 3-12x Burris ..  .. . Thanks for the comeback all ... Maybe a 2-6x Bushnell ...If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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Dang, I don't have that much scope on any of my rifles (3x12  )!"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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The 3 X 12 is more of a target scope or long distance scope. Go with the 2 X 6, you can do bench work at 6 X and set it on 2 for carry and hunting. JMHO If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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All of you are forgetting the most important thing with a gun with heavy recoil. Scope WEIGHT. Those heavy things take 4 rings and even they might slip. Make sure the variable is LIGHT weight before plunking down your money. Don't come back and say I didn't warn you. I would never use more the 2X for hunting but the higher powers are good for load work and rested target shooting. Of course most guys get groups at 25 yd's that Marko and I get at 200 so what good is all that power?  I know, you all take it personal and will jump on me. | |||
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4 rings?? why in the world would anyone need 4 rings. I have a few handgun's with 2 X 6 Bushnell's and one with a Leupold 2.5 X 8 and they are all big bore rounds, and I only use 2 rings. My scopes stay in place and never had a problem. S&W 500 Mag, 308 Win, S&W 460 Mag and a 375 H&H, all with only 2 rings. I have used a scope on my Super Redhawk 454 Casull with only 2 rings, and never a problem. Glad you can shoot so well.  If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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I am having a heck of a time importing stuff and keep getting stuck with this. I will paste it and maybe it will be GONE. We can learn from each other and it is enjoyable. Actually any bullet made today is so good, including well cast boolits, that I never worry about out of balance with them. If you really want to know what can cause more misses at long range, do this. Mount a scope solid to a bench in the morning on a sunny day. Adjust it dead center on a 200 yd target and do not touch it again. Every 15 minutes go and look through the scope without touching it. Do this all day. It will blow your mind to Kingdom come and you will come back to ask what is going on! | |||
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Nope, I keep getting the same pasted message over and over. I can't get to a picture. | |||
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Yes if the scope is mounted on a table ,the cross hair's will not stay in the same place, the sun heats up the scope and it will change . But that is not the same as carrying one in a holster. I don't leave my hunting handguns in the sun all day when hunting. I have shot my scoped handgun in cold weather and hot weather, and I still hit my target. What causes misses at long range is, a poor rest or poor shooing. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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You post of groups at 25, bfrshooter posts groups out to 100 yards and beyound. You stated that your longest kill was 68 yards. Perhaps there is a lesson here. _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Guys, that message was a post elsewhere and I can't get rid of it when I paste here. It seems to be locked in somewhere. But to answer, Redhawk, it is NOT heat on the scope but light effects downrange from the sun. You can actually be shooting where the target ISN'T. The target is NOT where your eyes say it is. Does not matter either if you are using open sights. Try the experiment with open sights too. | |||
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 OK, I finally got a picture. The left can is two shots at 100 yards and the left is at 200. .475, 420 gr WFN, RED DOT sight. Now some of you have to post pictures of your scope targets you have shot. Include off hand 100 yard targets too. ANY gun. Prove to me how bad a red dot shoots and how much better a high power scope is. | |||
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OOPS, the RIGHT can is 200. | |||
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..  All it took was 3 very short sentences from me and about 12 posts from yall .. ... I,m sorry. . .,. I really didn,t think it was going to amount to so much just asking about putting a scope on my revolver ... I thot what the replies would be ,,,, This brand scope is junk cause the reticle broke , that brand and model scope the lens fell out ,,, wouldn,t stay sighted in , those bases flew off the gun ect , ect , ect ..... I already had the dot sights figured out they wouldn,t work due to the temps ... Since there are so many dot type sights on the market , if I ever put one on a dot ,ect. sight I,ll ask ... Probably won,t get any replies ... .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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How do you explain flash lights? _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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........ Flashlights ???? Oh you mean the batteries ,,,, Well you change batteries alot , and you babysit the thing , keep it in where it,s warm .... The LAST thing I,m going to do is put 2-3 lbs of steel inside my parka ...... .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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What about the foging problem of optics in those conditions? _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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If it,s out in the cold . in a leather belt holster it will usually be fine .. This morning it is only 14 below F. @ my house . 78% humidity .. . very dry The scope on my 223 has been out all day for the past week and a half and it stays clear as a bell all the time .... But one reason I,m thinking about the Bushnell is the Rain Guard coating .... And as far as dots go ,, If I could get a dot reticle in the scope that would be IMO perfect . One of those Ballistic Plex type reticules would be great . Since the Range Finder will need to be kept inside along with the camera , I will be providing enough auxiliary heat to inanimate objects as is ............ .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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Hey, no problem, all I suggest is no more the 2X and the lightest weight scope you can find. Even a Tasco 2X holds up to a .475. Best bang for the buck you will find and the tubes are VERY hard. Rings will not eat them under recoil. Burris has dead soft tubes, crunch, and even bend under heavy loads. I can send a picture of one my .44 ate for breakfast. I have a nice little Swift scope that was gutted before I even sighted it. Got it replaced and put it on my .22, only safe gun for it. I have a Leopold so old it is funny but it still keeps going after being on a pile of guns. Higher power (For that matter, any pistol scope.) pistol scopes do not transmit enough light, the 5mm exit pupil disperses too much from the long eye relief. Turn up the power and the eye relief shortens so you need to get a lot closer to the scope for a full picture. They also get MUCH darker at the higher settings. Adjusting the focus for your eye even changes the eye relief. No one has been telling you these facts. I have been shooting scopes on pistols since the very first one hit the market. Not sure how long ago but it seems like it was the early 50's. | |||
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I am glad you take such interest in my posts, I could give two shit's about you or yours. I don't need any lessons for anyone, I am doing just fine on my own. So why don't you just crawl back into your little hole. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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I can tell by your lack of a responce, No, Hey wait a minute you did respond 25 yards? _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Grow up A$$hole. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Decorum?....... _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Heh Gumboot, how are you. . . . ? You may want to try a scoped handgun, if you have'nt already. A friend of mine had a scoped Casull, and I had one with the open sights. At 100 yards, he, myself, and another friend tried each gun, and unexpectantly, each of us shot better with my open sighted gun. We figured it had something to do with the unerving movement we saw with the scoped gun. Did not expect that, but just wanted to rely my experience. Good luck either way. | |||
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Once again you start crap, and then throw up your stupid Decorum. You would not know Decorum if it snuck up on you, and kick you in your old ass. You start crap and then want someone to join you on your little pissing contest. You do not know one thing about me, you have no idea how I shoot, and for that matter, how far or how well I shoot at far distances with a handgun. You bring up on target that was posted for me by another member, that I shot off hand at 25 yards with a new handgun, and act as if that is all I have accomplished. I practice at 100 yards regularly, but I don't feel the need to post the same pictures over and over just to try to prove anything. I took you off ignore and I wish I hadn't, but I guess I will just keep you there. So no need to reply to me, I will not see it. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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_____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Oh No not Ignore _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I meant a lesson for someone it's obvious that you aren't willing to learn from anyone on this forum. No one on this forum is intelligent enough to teach you and I humbly admit as much _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Thank you for the input, you are correct. Actually a 1X scope is ideal. They are brighter and you don't see the wiggle. Field of view is larger. I just don't know why they don't make one anymore. You can hit an awful small target at 300 yards with 1X. | |||
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BFRshooter, I like my red-dot sights as much as you do. But when I am shooting at 100 plus yards at the range with my handguns, I personally shoot much better with my scoped handguns. When I am shooting scoped handguns, I rarely shot them off hand. I use a rest. When I am hunting with a scoped handgun, I use a rest. The majority of the time when I am hunting, I am in the woods where shots are under 75 yards, so the majority of the time I either use open sights or a red-dot. On the occasion I hunt on a field where shots will or can be more than 100 yards, I take a scoped handgun, and either shooting sticks or have a good rest in the tree stand. But personally, and I am speaking for myself only, I shot better with a scoped handgun at long ranges than I do with a red-dot or iron sights. I shoot iron sights better off hand than I do from a bench with a rest also. Everyone finds what works for them, and I found what works best for me. But it may not be what works best for you. I do agree with you on the 1X scope, I would love to find one to use. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Redhawk, you are making sense there. My problem with a scope is that most of our deer shots here are early or late because we are sort of in the middle between beds and food. It is all private property so moving is not an option. I can't see the cross hairs or the deer when it is dim out. They are just too dark to see through. Even open sights are missing from the gun when deer move through. We can hunt 1/2 hour before and after sunrise and that is when they go through. We have no food plots. All of my stands are for archery and have no rests so shots are off hand with revolvers. I can't have rails on my stands. | |||
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Yea in the early time and late time frames, the light does play a big factor with scopes also. low light, dark animal and cross hairs do not mix, the red-dot will help. Have you tried a mono-pod in your archery stand, it is what I use if I don't have a stand with a rail. Why can't you have rails on your stands? If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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I sit in the stands, no way I can stand for hours. Rails are in the way for archery and I can't afford a new stand with movable or removable ones. Most of my stands are home made. Yeah, it means deer on the wrong side can't be shot but so what? | |||
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redhawk1, have you ever respsoded to a post without quote it? Just curious _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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We have some home made stands also, but we put rails on them and use them while bow hunting. I just stand up if I am going to shoot. We have seats build in and use the platform to stand on. I guess we build the stands different. I need to make some stands that go all the way around the tree. So I can get the ones that sneak behind me. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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