Brian P. and Ross S. are about the only two Gun Writers who I think are worth a hoot.Brian wrote a very good article in the latest Handloader about boolits.A worth while read.I use lots of Brian`s loads for 44 mag and 45 Colt with great success.Also am using his loads for 32 H & R which is quite a step up from anything you will find in any reloading manual.OB

Too bad Brian takes much of his information from other handgun writers books/experiences and regurgitates it to the unsuspecting readers as his own. What a shame writers these days can't do their own work. BTW, that John Taffin guy really is one hell of a handgun writer and experimenter, for the past FIFTY years. I read what HE writes cause he knows his shit.

Ross on the other hand I have great respect for....he does his own thing and has been for many years. No copycatting there....like 90% of today's writers do.

Love what Ross has researched on his own and written over the years.

I REALLY miss Bob Milek.

I would refer to BP as a tool but a tool is somethinig that is actually useful. He is pretty much a hack regurgitating others work.

Pretty harsh.Exactly who has he plagiarized???? A lot of the load data he prints for 45LC,44 Special,44 Mag,32 H&R,357 mag. I have never seen printed anywhere.Matter of fact he gets into loads you will not find in any loading manual.I have used most of them with great success.

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oo bad Brian takes much of his information from other handgun writers books/experiences and regurgitates it to the unsuspecting readers as his own. What a shame writers these days can't do their own work. BTW, that John Taffin guy really is one hell of a handgun writer and experimenter, for the past FIFTY years. I read what HE writes cause he knows his shit.

Ross on the other hand I have great respect for....he does his own thing and has been for many years. No copycatting there....like 90% of today's writers do.

TAFFIN! you have to be kidding.

I've read his stuff and find it informative and useful. I just ordered a Ruger Flattop in 44 sp and will be using the loads he listed in his article on the flattop. It does not hurt that these loads were also used/listed by Ross S., in my opinion one of the best/most knowledgeable guns writers alive or dead.I'm pretty partial to Von Zwoll also.

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Originally posted by aliveincc: by Ross S., in my opinion one of the best/most knowledgeable guns writers alive or dead.

I agree with you completely!

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Originally posted by aliveincc:
by Ross S., in my opinion one of the best/most knowledgeable guns writers alive or dead.

There is no doubt that Ross is extremely knowledeble about a wide range of subjects. If Ross writes it you can take it to the bank for sure and certain

Knowledge for shooting is limited. Nothing new, EVER. Only one way or the other. I find it funny that many gun writers are repeating what I have learned but they are not stealing because there is just so little variance.
I remember when a gun writer said the RCBS expander dies opened .45 Colt brass too much. I knew that long before. RCBS changed dies. Yet RCBS never changed .44 dies. The gun writer was right on the money. We CAN rely on smart gun writers.
Others blow smoke. Taffin owns a huge smoke house. He is doing real good now having someone else do the shooting and groups are measured by the best Three out of five or four out of six at 20 yards.
I shot the best 100 yard group ever by following Taffin. I had a one hole group counting the best one out of five!

I still fail to understand why these posts tend to get ugly. I learned a pretty good lesson from my Mom, if you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything.

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I still fail to understand why these posts tend to get ugly. ...
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Me too...

Me three.....

It is because their know it all attitude surpasses knowledge and experience. Then butt kissers drag behind.
The day that comes when you follow me, I will turn and kick you in the head. Learn for yourself!
Drag along on Taffin's coat tails and you are a fool. Nobody knows it all, do your own work and you might see what a puff of smoke he is.
I rely on those with experience. Dick Thompson and JWP even though my Freedom comments hurt him. Many others here that have more respect then gun writers that research history without knowing how to make a gun shoot.
Don't Quote others, you belittle yourself.
In years of posting, not one single time have I ever, ever repeated anything I read.
I post MY findings ONLY. If you need to tell us what someone else said, just what do you know?

You sound bitter. Why is that?

I find it interesting that people who live thousands of miles from Brian and John know so much about their lives.

Since my house is 23 miles west of John and Dot Taffin's house (where I have been a guest many times) and about the same distance west of me is the Pierce Ranch (where I have also visited) I have had the privilege of watching both gentlemen loading and shooting for nearly thirty years in John's case, and better than twenty in Brian's. I first met Brian at Elmer Keith's home in 1979 or 1980 I think. Elmer Keith thought very highly of him.

John is having some of his load testing done these days, turning seventy and arthritis will do that for you. He makes no bones about it.

The lot of you, naysayers and whiners, have not accomplished 1% of what either have. You should be embarrassed...

regards,

Rich

I have always read the Taffin tests, and Brain has done some good reloading articles IMHO

jwp, is it true that you are hurt over comments about Freedom Arms? Would you like a tissue?

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
jwp, is it true that you are hurt over comments about Freedom Arms? Would you like a tissue?

No tissue for anything posted on the internet, but I may need one over the cost of replacing my transmission

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I have always read the Taffin tests, and Brain has done some good reloading articles IMHO

Brian, yes. Taffin never! He shoots factory loads or has someone else shoot. Yeah he has problems but I am almost 74 and do not feel sorry for him at all. He is old, ugly and should not wear a cowboy hat. Don't give me the old age crap.
Following some jerk with a name without your own experience is stupid.
All of the gun comic stuff is to sell something.

I'm no great Taffin fan, but it wasn't always like that. He did develop/shoot his own loads. Where do you thing the damage to his hands comes from? Think about all of the berserk .454 Casull load development he was part of. They explored the outer limits (I used to love that show!) of that cartridge.

I agree that he has a cult-like following, but he has been true to the cause of the handgunner from day one -- and he's still at it. He can't shoot like he did and yeah, testing at short distances does bother me a bit, but that's okay. Most handgunners don't shoot the ranges you do, Jim. Gotta give credit where it's due, but I don't see any reason for hostility as it's a waste of energy.

What, are you the hat police?

Not all magazines and articles are "comics." If you don't like the content, why read 'em?

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I have always read the Taffin tests, and Brain has done some good reloading articles IMHO

Brian, yes. Taffin never! He shoots factory loads or has someone else shoot. Yeah he has problems but I am almost 74 and do not feel sorry for him at all. He is old, ugly and should not wear a cowboy hat. Don't give me the old age crap.
Following some jerk with a name without your own experience is stupid.
All of the gun comic stuff is to sell something.

Your rants border on insanity. People get disabled all the time at younger ages than Taffin. A man's looks and or attire are personal things and to make fun of them is ridiculous.

John Linebaugh told me years ago that John Taffin would shoot hundreds of full power big bore rounds such as the 454, 475, 500, etc. at one sitting and had done a lot of damage to himself, by doing so.

Earth to bfrshooter, come in please.

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It is because their know it all attitude surpasses knowledge and experience. Jim, your know-it-all attitude reeks as well. Then butt kissers drag behind.
The day that comes when you follow me, I will turn and kick you in the head. Why don't you just hold your breathe waiting for that day to come. Learn for yourself! I have and I tend to believe that despite your age advantage, I have more practical experience on big game than you do.
Drag along on Taffin's coat tails and you are a fool. Nobody knows it all, (except you perhaps?) do your own work and you might see what a puff of smoke he is.
I rely on those with experience. Dick Thompson and JWP even though my Freedom comments hurt him. Many others here that have more respect then gun writers that research history without knowing how to make a gun shoot.
Don't Quote others, you belittle yourself. No point in anyone here belittling themselves; you have attempted enough of that yourself.
In years of posting, not one single time have I ever, ever repeated anything I read. Does this mean you have not read much? These are the words of a fool.
I post MY findings ONLY. From what you have posted lately, I must question your reasoning process. If you need to tell us what someone else said, just what do you know?

Jim, you need to get back on your meds and seek some help. These rants are getting further and further out into left field.

i'm pretty much all for anyone that writes and contributes any article in the press positively about handgun hunting. taffin has done this and so has pierce. hell, i like taffin just cuz he put out the big bore handgunning book and i look at something after owning it for years. i give both a big thumbs up.

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i'm pretty much all for anyone that writes and contributes any article in the press positively about handgun hunting. taffin has done this and so has pierce. hell, i like taffin just cuz he put out the big bore handgunning book and i look at something after owning it for years. i give both a big thumbs up.

Well said, tradmark.

I was a big fan of both Ross and Bob Milek ,but Brian is an honest and excellent gunwriter too he have an incredible experience on reloading and testing his loads.Here with two experts DRDON HEATH AND BRIAN PEARCE.

As soon as someone becomes a writer they seem to get a big bullseye on their back. You can go back as far as you want to & everyone of them, Elmer Keith, Ross Siefried, George Nonte, Phil Sharpe, Bob Milek, Hal Swiggett, Bob Hagel, Al Georg, Skeeter Skelton, Dave Scovill, Lee Jurras, Larry Kelly, JD Jones, etc. everyone had their destractors, its just the nature of the beast.
Everyone, myself included will disagree with part of what they said...thats why they make chocolote & vanilla, so we have a choice.
It really doesn't make much sense to take potshots at everyone who pens an article & then try to gut shoot them because we got different results by doing it "our" way.
Truth is, there's not a lot going on thats truly new in the handgun world, all the old timers had most of the technical stuff worked out years ago & we owe them for that!
I'll take all the advice I can get from Ross Siefried, John Taffin & Brian Pearce, do I agree with everything they say, probably not but they are very good at what they do & we should be thankful we have them. I'm almost 67 years old & I'm still learning & enjoying every minute of it. Also, there's no cut off date for getting old, I can feel it everytime I tangle with another badger!
Again, I think most of the truly new, inovative stuff is pretty much over in the revolver arena, so we're going to get some repeat information, my thoughts only.
These guys deserve a big thanks, I'd sure hate to be without their contributions to our sport.

Dick

Thank you, Dick! Very well said as usual. The problem this internet thing has created is that everyone's voice can be heard, which makes it far too easy for folks to be petty. When complaints required a letter, postage, and the US Postal Service, complaints were more thoughtful and legitimate (well, not everyone's perception is accurate) as they required more effort. JMHO.

I think Dick is spot on.
I also miss Milek, but he had his blind spots, such as insisting the .45 Colt case was too weak for useful handloads.
Ross Seyfried is at the top of my favorites list.
Elmer is fun to read, but he had his shortcomings, too.

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Originally posted by Dick Thompson:
As soon as someone becomes a writer they seem to get a big bullseye on their back. You can go back as far as you want to & everyone of them, Elmer Keith, Ross Siefried, George Nonte, Phil Sharpe, Bob Milek, Hal Swiggett, Bob Hagel, Al Georg, Skeeter Skelton, Dave Scovill, Lee Jurras, Larry Kelly, JD Jones, etc. everyone had their destractors, its just the nature of the beast.
Everyone, myself included will disagree with part of what they said...thats why they make chocolote & vanilla, so we have a choice.
It really doesn't make much sense to take potshots at everyone who pens an article & then try to gut shoot them because we got different results by doing it "our" way.
Truth is, there's not a lot going on thats truly new in the handgun world, all the old timers had most of the technical stuff worked out years ago & we owe them for that!
I'll take all the advice I can get from Ross Siefried, John Taffin & Brian Pearce, do I agree with everything they say, probably not but they are very good at what they do & we should be thankful we have them. I'm almost 67 years old & I'm still learning & enjoying every minute of it. Also, there's no cut off date for getting old, I can feel it everytime I tangle with another badger!
Again, I think most of the truly new, inovative stuff is pretty much over in the revolver arena, so we're going to get some repeat information, my thoughts only.
These guys deserve a big thanks, I'd sure hate to be without their contributions to our sport.

Dick

Amen.

I have always thought these forums were for the spread of ideas,information and experience's(crap spelling wth!), not for name calling and bitchin and moaning. Granted calling BS on something that is obviously wrong is acceptable. But I look here for info that I don't know or have not experienced. I have been reloading since 1987 and am still picking up new info. Everbody get's their buttons pushed once in awhile. but how about more info and less name calling. After all everybody has opinions, just like ash&^%s, and they all stink.

Amen to that, kingd!

Dick said it well. Most writers are top notch and do the best they can. I have not put a bulls eye on a single one---except one!
My problem with Taffin was a personal attack he made. I will not get into it but it was uncalled for and is unforgivable. I never said anything and he did not know me.
That turned loose his followers and it never ended.
Now what did I do? I posted group pictures and explained the best ways to get a revolver to shoot. THAT WAS ALL! I encroached on his knowledge I guess.
Anyone in his business should never stoop that low.
Same with Baker, he attacked me behind my back when friends called him about troubles they had and mentioned I had measured their guns for them while they watched. It continued on E mail, accusing me of causing damage by using pure lead slugs to measure or shooting cast boolits before bullets. I watched several others have screaming bouts on the phone with him at work and I had never even touched their guns, didn't even know they had a Freedom.
He didn't even know me. Ask if I would ever spend money for his stuff or shake his hand?
Seen the same at work when someone called Thompson Center.
No way to run a business.
Some of you don't like what I say, don't bother me a bit, but you get it the way it is, I refuse to pad or forgive.
Now ask me about Mossberg! A fellow bought a used gun and it didn't work. There was a part missing. I called Mossberg and explained it. The lady said no problem, the part is in the mail. When I asked the price, she said none, free. They sent the wrong one so I called back. No problem, another is on the way, keep the other one.
I sheared an extended Burris ring, called them and no problem, sending a new set, throw the broken one away.
If I told you all the good things from so many good people and companies, it would never end.
I am too old to accept nasty or greedy people.
I don't get angry with anyone here, I just explain my position. You do not know the circumstances or the vile things that have gone on.
Only two people in my entire life get what they deserve from me---YES, just two.
You need not agree.

Let it go, Jim.......life is too short......

Jim,

If you refuse to forgive that's your problem. Go do it somewhere else than this forum. Wallow in your self pity all you want; just don't do it here.

One more outburst from you and I am going to the administrators to have you removed from this site. Enough is enough.

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Jim,

If you refuse to forgive that's your problem. Go do it somewhere else than this forum. Wallow in your self pity all you want; just don't do it here.

One more outburst from you and I am going to the administrators to have you removed from this site. Enough is enough.


You'd be surprised how hard simple is on some people.

If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out.

OK, I respect your wishes and everyone here. I will quit. I just did not want all other writers that I love and respect added. Names of great people were being added.
No self pity here, just public bashing of anyone by someone in the business is wrong. They could have talked directly to me and we might have been friends forever.
That is what bothers me, don't go behind my back, talk to me. I hate nobody but respect is very important.
I respect all of you so please accept my apologies.

I accept your apology.

Now ain't that better!