How bad does this handgun kick? I have a Ruger super redhawk in .454 and that kicks pretty good. Just do not want to buy one if it kicks worse then the .454. Love the look of them and have heard they are accurate. Also, i reload so i can choose lighter loads if needed.

Thanks, Chad

I've not shot one, but a guy who goes by bfrshooter should be on later and can answer your questions.

I have shot one, it compares to my BFR in 500 Mag. We were shooting Marlin level rounds in the 45-70. The trapdoor loads which most factory loads are rated at are not bad at all. I think the trapdoor loads of the 45-70 have less felt recoil than the 454 Casull in a Super Redhawk. I have owned and shot several Super Redhawk's in 454 Casull so I know the recoil well.

I think if you can handle the recoil of the 454 Casull, you will do just fine with the 45-70.

I shot a BFR 45/70 with factory rifle loads that a co-worker had and the recoil was almost non-existant. The revolver was new and when he fired it the first time he had the funniest expression on his face because he was half expecting to have a hammer spur imprint in his forehead but it was a pussy cat compared to my 41Mag with full power loads.

Mine is the 10" version with a 2-6 Bushnell 3200 scope. The only factory loads tried were Win 405 gr. SP's which clocked at 1125 fps and shoot into 1" at 50 yards. Recoil is MILDER than most .44 mag loads.

Load up some 350 gr. Laser Cast bullets over 14 gr. of Unique (about 1050 fps ave.) and recoil is very mild. Going the other way, 45 gr. of Rel#7 (approx 1500 fps) under a 400 gr. soft point or Cast Performance FNGC will start to get your attention but now we're talking about a lotta horsepower!

I picked up a mess of Rem 405 gr. SP's cheap a while back and load them over 41 gr. of Rel#7 for 1325 fps. Plenty of power and as a bonus, it shoots to the same POI as the above Laser Cast plinking load.

I have the 10.5" gun as well, but just open sights. Factory Remington loads are very mild. The gun does weigh almost 5 lbs though. The best I've been able to do for groups is around 1.5" at 50 yds with open sights.
I have loaded cast 405's up to 1750 fps! ouch! They were not fun to shoot, but still controlable and I was able to get a 1.4" group for 5 rounds. I loaded some 500gn cast as well, but I think my hand was sore from the 405s, so none of them were pleasant.
I tried some slower H powders(don't remember now?) and got terrible groups.
I have a very nice 320 gn mold for it, but haven't been able to get to the range yet.

I do wish that Hougue would make a Mono Grip for the BFR.

You could check www.gunbroker.com , they sometimes have used ones come up for less $$

The big BFR is actually fun to shoot until you get over 400 gr's pushed hard. Even then the .475 or larger kicks more. My boolits weigh 317 and 330 gr's. I have had the 300 gr Hornady to 1800 fps with mild recoil.
My .45 Vaquero with heavy boolits kicks WAY more then the BFR.

Just wondering if any of you crazy sob's have shot the 450 marlin out of a BFR. If so, what was the recoil like?

The 450 Marlin and heavy loads in the 45-70 should be very similar.
The 45-70 should have more velocity potential as it has about 5gns more water capacity.

I wish that Hougue would make a Mono-grip to fit the BFR.

With the grips on the BFR's, plus the gun's weight, it is amazing how much recoil the gun can generate without pain. I have never had any pain from them, unlike a Freedom of even a Ruger .44 with the wood grips.
My Vaquero .45 with 335 gr boolits would tear me up in six shots. I put Pachmeyers on it and can now shoot it all day.
The Freedom .475, even with rubber grips will make you sit up and take notice that something went off.
BFR's are NICE to shoot and superbly accurate to boot.
The only change I had to make with my BFR .475 when deer hunting was to not relax. I have to tighten my hold or I will crease the deer's back when the gun comes up. I have been hitting them perfect out to 100 yd's since I added tension.

I have a BFR in 450M. My T/C Contender in 44 Mag kicks worse.

Molar1'
The 450 marlin round, out of the 10 1/2" bl gets you about 1800 to 1900 ft.lbs. Out of a gun this size the recoil is not bad at all. You can get this energy in a 454 casul with alot lighter gun, then the recoil is alot stiffer. The Bfr will take about anything you can put in it. Jack Huntingto is making 50 alaskan revolvers with the BFR. If you shoot Buffalo Bore factory ammo, you can get 525 grain bullets out to 1710 ft/sec for 3405 ft.lbs. This is almost double the energy of the 450 marlin round. My 9" barrel with a 1 1/2" muzzle brake is still manageable with the B.B. load, but it does take a little getting used too. The 450 grain factory load has been chronographed at 1928ft/sec for around 3700 ft. lbs of energy. That is alot of power for a 72 oz. handgun. I use leather gloves when shooting the 450 grain bullets if I have the wood grips on. These hotter loads kick alot but they don't hurt you, just let the gun roll upward with the shot as it was intended to do and you will not have any problems.

A 405 @ 1750 fps is more like 2700 ft.lbs. from the 10.5" bbl.
The factory 450 Marlin loads should be very similar to hot loaded 45-70s. Buffalo bore's site shows very similar velocities for the two.

Lar45,
The buffalo bore rounds I was referring to are their 50 alaskan rounds. The factory velocities on their web page are for rifle rounds. My 50 alaskan loads are chronographed velocities in my BFR revolver. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Lar45,
The ft. lbs of energy I mentioned for the 450 Marlin in the BFR are from their Brochure. I am sure it can be loaded hotter. I don't own a BFR in 450 marlin so I was using BFR's printed info.

"I see" said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and saw.
50 Alaskan, OUCH. I'm developeing a twitch just thinking about it.
Sorry if I sounded edgy, it wasn't intended.

I was just looking at their website and Precision shop.
http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_precision.asp
It looks like you can get one made with all the options you want. Octagon barrel, ingraving, custom chambering... They say you can get a 1.9" cylinder in the short frame or 3" in the long one. You could get a 50-110 win and still have room for longer bullets.
I'm sure the 45-70 can deliver way more recoil than I care to shoot anymore.

I shoot a 10 incher with open sights. Load 45.0 grains of 4198 with a Remington 405 soft point and 50.0 grains of 4198 with a 300 grain hollow point. Drops deer in a way that makes my .41s and .44s green with envy. Haven't chronograghed the loads, but they are close to full throttle. Gun is heavy enough and muzzle heavy enough that the recoil is surprisingly .....well, maybe not mild, but not that bad. And I stuck a pair of Ruger Super Blackhawk grips on it as I hate the rubber ones.

No sweat LAR45,
With the long 3" cylinder there is all kinds of room for cool stuff. I am having some 700 grain bullets loaded to shoot in my 50 alaskan. Those should be some real monsters out of a handgun!

I don't mind recoil unless it beats my middle knuckle. But 700 gr's????? Equal and opposite rection!

OOPS---reaction. Old age spelling.

I don't know bfr, may be a "wrection" when he pulls the trigger on that one.

HEE-HEE, guess I was close with the first spelling.

I should get the 700 grain bullets loaded ane have them with in 2 or 3 weeks. I will let you know how they fire. Of coarse, with longer bullets, there will be a little less room for powder. I hope to get 1500 ft./sec for about 3500 ft.lbs. This is a little less energy than can be achieved with the 450 grain bullets, but the 700 grain bullets, being heavier will kick somewhat more. I'll let you know.

Please do; I am extremely curious as to how that load operates.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigdoggy700:
Molar1'
. The Bfr will take about anything you can put in it. Jack Huntingto is making 50 alaskan revolvers with the BFR. If you shoot Buffalo Bore factory ammo, you can get 525 grain bullets out to 1710 ft/sec for 3405 ft.lbs. This is almost double the energy of the 450 marlin round. [/QUOTE}

I have a 50 Alaskan made by Jack Huntington on a D-Max Frame the pre-curser to the present BFR, but I do not get any where near the velocity that you mention with the Buffall Bore 525 grain bullets I get 1550 fps and that is a handfull for sure

JWP475,
I was a little surprised with the velocity also. Jack tested it when he made it and got 1710 ft/sec. I tested it and got 1708 ft./second. Tight cylinder gap?? Jack says his muzzel brake actually helps promote speed, I don't know. My barrel is 9" with a 1 1/2" brake on top of that. I had several posts on the Reeder Custom Guns forum about the 50 alaskan a couple of months ago and was called every name in the book by some of their regulars. All I can do is report what comes out of my revolver. I realize all revolvers are not exactly alike. I will say that I have complete faith in Jack's revolvers, he does have a masters in small arms engineering and says he won't make anything that is unsafe. However some other gun guys say that it is unsafe to shoot handguns with this velocity and bullet weight. I did have one gun blow up on me several years ago. It was a 12" barrel TC encore hand gun and shot a fullhouse 460 weatherby load. It blew the frame and barrel off and broke my wrist and severed a tendon in my finger. It was repaired and I shot it twice more. The recoil was tremendous but the gun stayed together and did not physically damage me. I have since retired that gun to my safe. I do not shoot it anymore. Guns ripping apart is not my idea of fun by any means. By the way the 460 chronographed a 500 grain bullet at 2098 ft/sec for 4881 ft.lbs. I may be off by 10 or 20 ft/sec, this was a couple of years ago. The gun weighs a little over 4 lbs.

Lar45,
I stand corrected on a ballistic quote, the BFR printed info for the 450 marlin in a 10" barrel, is a 350 grain bullet at 1814 ft/sec. This comes out to 2554 ft.lbs. I missquoted and thought that the 350 grian bullet got only 1900 ft.lbs.

bigdoggy700, Who built the TC Encore 460 Wea. that blew up? I think that I know, but want to confirm.

http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/
This guy has .512" bullets up to 975gns!

I have some of his .501" 700gn bullets for the S&W, but have not shot any yet.

I thought I was nuts!!!! A .460 in a TC is not a handgun, it is a sledge hammer beating your hand against an anvil. The TC is the worst gun for recoil management ever made and even a 30-30 is mean shooting one handed. You need two hands on it unless shooting Creedmore. As you go up in caliber, recoil gets out of hand.
I have a movie that shows a guy shooting some .70 caliber in a TC. It left his hands and flew 30 or 40 feet behind him. If it would have hit his head, it would have gone halfway through.

Jwp475,
Send me a PM. I am not out to get anyones reputation hammered. This guy still makes lots of top quality guns. I own two other guns made by him. He does not make the encore in the 460 weatherby anymore. He pulled it after the trouble with my gun.

To bfrshooter, when my gun ripped apart, the barrel landed 30 feet in front of me and the head of the ruptured case landed about 80 feet behind me. With 2/3rds of the gun's weight going forward, recoil was about 2 and 1/2 times what it should have been against my wrist. Thats why there was so much physical damage to my wrist and finger.Live and learn.

Lar45,
I have shot alot of the 700 grain bullets from ballistic supply in my 500S&W, I think they are great. At 1200 ft/sec, they crank out 2236 ft.lbs.They kick, but are quite manageable in the Smith with a little practice.

The guy was shooting a 600 NE with lite loads, and almost hit his head. The next guy shot it, it bounced off his head and went back. Painful I'm guessing...

Yeah, and that gun weighed 7 1/2 lbs. He is supposed to be shooting it again this summer. There is more info on this 600 nitro pistol on "nitro express forums" under big bores. The shooter post under "Kamakazee".He is a retired police officer and lives in nothern Illinois.

I guess it depends on who sends the video. My first one did say .60 but the second on my other computer says .70. Still not fun to shoot with arthritis in the thumbs.

Bfr shooter, I think he is asked if he will take the next step and make and shoot a 700 nitro. He declines on both counts.

I wouldn't shoot it with a rifle stock attached. That thing would ruin your wrists, instant carpel tunnel!