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Check this out, very exciting. http://www.oicu2.com/afc/AKguns.html


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I've talked to Greg a number of times. He doesn't leave home without his Ruger Alaskan and it's a good thing.



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Makes me think that I should upgrade my .41 mag. w/ 265 gr. wfn that I carried the last time I went to Alaska. We had a big black bear in the yard last time I was there but he wasn't aggressive and I didn't have to shoot him. Sometimes it's the ones that you don't see that actually pose the greatest threat.


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Wow,talk about being ready.That Bear is huge!!!
 
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The effectiveness of a 45 caliber revolver is, well, simply amazing.


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Especially when loaded with heavy, hardcast, flat-nosed bullets......



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Glad you are ok and that is fantastic shooting under that kind of pressure.
 
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I'm not calling foul here but when did this happen? With the flowers in the picture? On 1 3 2010 with no snow and that warm looking? Looks like spring.
 
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It happened three years ago if I recall correctly. There's nothing hinky about this story.



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

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IIRC , some years back there was a death of a hiker down south from a black bear.When they got the bear it was starving ,no fat .Very dangerous situation as the bear is trying to survive.
Very lucky man to have survived even with a gun.
 
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there's nothing lucky about this, imho, lynn has stoppped charges of larger animals in africa. he's done more practicing in the last year than the most experienced here have in 10. it's preparedness, not luck.
 
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and.......those were factory hornady loads.
 
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there's nothing lucky about this, imho, lynn has stoppped charges of larger animals in africa. he's done more practicing in the last year than the most experienced here have in 10. it's preparedness, not luck.


Uuuh, this is about Greg Brush and a brown bear attack, not Lynn Thompson...... Big Grin

Greg had no time to do anything but draw and shoot while backpedalling and trying to put some distance between him and the bear. He was carrying 350 grain hardcast loads.



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damn, you're right, i was looking at two different sites at the same time, my bad.

greg had his story beat to death on many different fronts, he had alot of naysaysers but in the end was proven accurate. he did what many have done before and will do after him, and that is over perform in the face of adrenal spiking adversity. you fold or over perform as some would call him getting off that many shots that fast.

i once had a hog charge me when i was on hands and knees in a hog "tunnel" i stopped it with my original 454 RB and my brother said it sounded like a rapid fire 9mm. i couldn't hear for days. never could fire the gun that fast again when i tried to repeat it. some would call it luck, i'd like to think me shooting several thousand rounds through my gun had something to do with it.
 
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Can you imagine what that bear would have looked like in his prime. What a Monster he would have been! Great shooting!


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But we all know one should file the front site off.

We all know one doesn't have time to draw and fire and kill a bear in full charge with a hand gun.

We all know spray works better amd is easier to use faster more accurate.
(Sarcasm Off)

Good fast shootng saved his life.
 
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I'm not calling foul here but when did this happen? With the flowers in the picture? On 1 3 2010 with no snow and that warm looking? Looks like spring.


King season ends on the peninsula July 31 and silvers arrive shortly after. I would guess the date was meant to be 8/3.


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I have read and reread this account several times over the years and the size of that bear still amazes me....

Opinions....now this was a 3" .454 with 350 hardcast bullets. As I recall the killing shot was in the mouth that either hit the spine or brain dumping the bear right there. If this was a .41, .44 or .45 Colt with heavy for the caliber hardcast bullets would the effect have been the same?

Personally I can not see anyone of those rounds loaded with the same type of bullet not doing the same job...or for that matter the same gun in .480 Ruger...

Your thoughts?

Bob
 
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I have read and reread this account several times over the years and the size of that bear still amazes me....

Opinions....now this was a 3" .454 with 350 hardcast bullets. As I recall the killing shot was in the mouth that either hit the spine or brain dumping the bear right there. If this was a .41, .44 or .45 Colt with heavy for the caliber hardcast bullets would the effect have been the same?

Personally I can not see anyone of those rounds loaded with the same type of bullet not doing the same job...or for that matter the same gun in .480 Ruger...

Your thoughts?

Bob


Any caliber strong enough to drive a bullet into the brain or into and break the spine well do the same job
 
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Yes , any bullet that can get there will do the job . . Its getting the bullet there in time that is a pretty tough ..
Since dangerous situations happen sometimes without warning , tho seldom . .
It's important to always have your pistol on you and where you can get it out right away . .
A good friend was at his moose camp last fall . He had just stepped out of his tent when he eas rushed by a grizzly . The bear couldn't see him and it aparantly rushed the sound . . The bear was about a 7' boar , it stopped 8-10 feet away . From the first my friend heard it coming to when it was there was a few seconds . His rifle was in the tent . The bear rooted and bellered for a little bit then left . If he had his 44 or 45 with him he wouldhave had time to get it out. Before that happened he was extolling the 250 gr Kieth at 1200 fps as All You'de ever need . After, he keeps his 45 Colt Blackhawk stuffed with 335 gr CP LRNs with 23 gr H110 .
He has camped in the same spot for the past 35 years during moose season . Never seen a grizzly there to the best of my knowledge .


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Should read LFN


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Hey, where've you been, gumboot? Welcome back!



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

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I understand completely why he was still feeling queezy an hour later.


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