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Haven't shot it yet but I'll let you know how it turns out.

Sorry, the sight still has the cover on it. I took the pics for Bob @ Mernickle Holsters for the Field Carry II holster he is building me for my Grizzly hunt in 17 days.

Oh, yeah, note Gary Clements new, higher front sight! Cool Big Grin




 
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GSSP -- that is cool. Very compact! When will you be trying it out? Can I ask what it ran you? Thanks!



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Is that a Hologram type sight? Clements is a good builder...


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Whit,

I have an FFL, so my price of around $250 to $270 is not indicative of what retail is. I think around $300. Finding both the 4 MOA and the MS22 Ruger was a pain. All my wholesalers I deal with had no 4 MOA sights except one, all had the 8 MOA sight and I bought the last 4 MOA from Sports South. Then there is the MS22 Ruger mounting plate. Quality control is fantastic but finding one was a Bi@#%. Finally had to go to the source, Trijicon, pay their $50 retail and then they screwed up the shipping so it came a week after I ordered it though I payed for overnight.

I hope to sneak away from work if possible as I'm an hour away from home where I could run up the canyon behind my house and in 10 minutes, be shooting. I've been calling around Salt Lake City and the Lee Kay center is closed today. The Holiday Gun Club wants a 1/2 yr membership of $75. Doug's Shoot N Sports does not open for another hour. They have an indoor range. Hope they let me shoot my Cast Peformance lead reloads!

JWP,

Hologram? Not sure. Their is a little red beam/dot emitted from the rear of the sight, up onto the lens. Yeah, I guess so.

I'll post some more pics w/o the cover by tomorrow if possible.

To install the sight, I simply removed the Ruger rear sight, pushed the mounting plate down in the sight slot and screwed in the single mounting screw. The plate is a very snug fit. The screw was so long it went clean through the frame and hit up against the top of the cylinder, effectively locking it up. Thank goodness I had several of the right kinds of wet sand paper. Had to remove about .070" of screw tip. Now, works like a charm. Their is a rear slot in the sight which can act much like a iron rear sight. I'll find out where it hits. Will probalby be off for my 335 gr bullets.
 
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Keep us posted! I like the fact that the sight is so small. Let us know how it shoots!



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I am sure that it will shoot well, I am more interested in how it holds up thumb


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Ok, just finished a too quick indoor range session. Mad At 10 yds it took me about 6 rounds to even hit the paper. Confused I had another shooter stand behind me while I aimed at the bull from 10 yds. By eyeballing the angle of my barrel, he said I was shooting over the 12"x12" paper, on angle. I adjusted the sight all the way "up" and hit the paper both times about 6" above POA.

Trijicon includes an angled, thicker at one end, shim with both the sight and the mounting plate. So I have two. I will need to install the shim to move the dot "up" to the POI. Thus the the front of the sight needs to move "up". I verified this w/ the Trijicon tech who said some people have been able to use both shims between the plate and sight if needed. He also cautioned about over adjusting the elev/wind screws as it can cause damage. Eeker So, I didn't push it.

I mentioned the single mounting screw being about .070" too long and he replied "I've heard that a few times before. I'll let manufacturing know."

My biggest mistake was not bringing the accessories with me. CRYBABY The entire package comes in a VERY nice clear Pelican waterproof case. thumb In it I left behind the Allen wrench to adjust the elev/wind screws thumband mounting screw. Lucky for me the gun range had the proper Allen wrench. banana Also a little plastic "direction" dial which has the Allen wrench inserted through, to tell you which way to adjust the elev/wind screws. To Trijicon's credit they did supply one battery. thumb Also included was a Trijicon decal, warranty registration card, instruction booklet though it didn't tell me how to mount the plate, just the sight.

Gee,I guess this is kinda turning into a T&E report for you guys.

I will admit I did like the sight picture. With my 50 year old eyes my optometrist has me set up for "mono vision" contacts. My right contact allows me to see at distance and my left contact for reading. For most everyday vision, it's just fine but for handguns it's not enough. The front sight is too close for my right/dominant eye and my left contact allows me to see the front sight fine but the distant target is much more blurry.

As far as stout construction, if you remember my load is the 335 gr Cast Performance WFNGC in front of 20 gr Lil'Gun, hitting 1140 fps from the 4-5/8" barrel. BOOM So stay tuned for more reports popcornas I get this kinks worked out.

Sorry about the emoticons. Had to do something to cheer me up. jumping
 
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Good report! I am confident that you will get it sorted out during your next range session. Looking forward to that report as well.



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GSSP, I take it that mount is made just for that sight?


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Ok! Ran home and picked up the Trijicon box and some extra ammo. Back to the range.

Fidled and fidled with it. Needed "both" 1 degree shims with the thick end towards the muzzle. Not enough! Ended up cutting a small strip from a business card and inserted it between the shims. Bingo!

It's a touchy bugger to adjust the sights but I'm on at 25 yds. Ran out of ammo. I'll load up some more and get on at 50 yds.

For 100 yds max where do you think I should zero this for the Grizzly, should I get lucky enough to have one in range with all the conditions just right?

Oh, and I'll try and take some more pics in the am.

Redhawk1,

Yep! Made EXACTLY for the BlackHawk rear sight trough. I'm quite impressed how snug that thing is.
 
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IIRC it uses a single screw to atch to the ruger? I personally question that its enuff for the more robust loads and conversion calibers. Take a look again as there is an integral 'rail'(?) for lack of better term that has a 'hook/claw' at the end. Nowhere and nobody seems to know but me thinks thet the ruger sight pin is to be installed for the rail to rest on and the 'hook' to hold against recoil. Perhaps not doing so is the reason for all the shimmin' ?

Just a thot ~ ~

And yes, the same mount can be used for the JP Enterprise JPoint. Have one myself. Almost put it on on of my rugers (454 SRH/44 Hunter) and surveyed possibility of putting it on one of my BFRs (460 & 475) JT series when deciding against doing so as I doubted it would hold up to recoil of the 454/460/475 chambering I had on hand. So, have an extra mount that I may be selling ~ ~


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Odoh,

Oh, noowwww you mention that! bewildered "Ok", I bit the bullet and pulled the RedDot sight off early this am to see if the Ruger sight pin, when inserted, would somehow effect the positioning of the Trijicon mounting plate. Nope, won't go. The pics show the sight pin installed.

I hope you are wrong about the ruggedness of this sight. I too wonder about the single screw but I'll tell you, the way they have engineered this mount, it think I could mount it along with the sight w/o the single screw and fire it w/o the sight flying. Besides the engineering, the sight is low and extremly light. We all understand that weight and height away from the bore is what kills optics and their mounting systems. Look at how the mount hugs the sides and rear of the frame top. The sides of the mount are a press fit onto the frame. The rear of the mount butts right up against the rear of the frame. Upon recoil the frame will snap up and the the rear, right into the mount. JMHO!

Look at the pics where you can see the top of the frame, near the rear. See the little partial circles on each side. That would be marks from the two little screws which when screwed down through the sight into the mount, obviously through the mount and butt against the top of the frame. Again, screws a skootch too long!







The middle ridge (I'll call it a ridge) on the underside of the plate prohibits the sight pin from going through.

For the heck of it, here's the Ruger rear sight. Sorry for the pic quality.


Here is what comes with the package.


In the pic above, you can see the two shims, which I'm sorry I did not simply detach them and include them in the pics, they are attached to the bottom of the sight. At that time I noticed the bottom shim is turned around 180 degrees. You can see the thick end towards the right; my bad. I remedied that.

Here is the "Minidial" sight adjustment tool. It is supposed to move the POI 1/4" @ 20 yds per tick mark on the dial.



Here are some pics with the cover off the sight.





Hopefully you can see the red dot in the last pic. You can see the rear sight notch in the Trijicon but let my tell you, if you used it you could aim an the nuts of a giant and you "might" him him between the eyes. It's way off!


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Odoh,

. . . . . Nope, won't go. The pics show the sight pin installed.



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Did you insert pin and then do the screw? It worked that way for me on both my SBH and BFRs. It gives 2 bearing points for stability (neg wobble). Did get the impression thet the claw may need to be fitted sligtly as perhaps not fully over the top of the pin. Spoke w/the nice voice on the phone at the maker but she failed to understand the question and by that time, I decided to put the device on an FA 475L. Mine came w/absolutely no hint of instructions
 
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Odoh,

Agree, not a hint of how to mount it. I guess trijicon figures we're all smart engineers who can read their minds.

I did insert the rear sight pin and it fully got in the way of the mount seating down into the trough. If you wish, and since I won't be trying to resight it in again until this Saturday, I could dissable the whole thing again, insert the rear sight pin and try install the mount and take a pic for you.
 
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No, if just for me it isn't necessary as I've abandoned it and mounted my red dot on an FA instead. As stated earlier, the Ruger revolver mount is excess to my needs at this point unless I can come up w/the scratch for another red dot.

FWIW ~ took the red dot to the range yesterday and it worked out nice. As it too is a 4moa, at 50yrds, its like 2" dia and I was very happy w/it. I suspect that a reg telescopic sight would be better at 100yrs and beyond but I'm not that good of a shooter ~ yet.
 
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GSSP,Did you get your Bear with it??


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Safarkid,

No, I did'nt shoot a bear with my handgun. I would have given a chance. Something else gave me the chance.

Here's the link to my story.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...8521043/m/5361004101

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