Hi All,

You can find below a link about .454 Casull ammo study. Very interresting.

http://www.sixgunner.com/mcpherson/454factoryammo.htm

BER007

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That is interesting. But at $30+ per box of 20 for many of these, I'm not running out to stock up any time soon.

ScottB,

I agree with you. This article is interesting but I prefer handloads myself. I use for my .454 loads 250gr ,240 gr XTP from Honardy and 300 gr from Speer. I can compare my loads with factory loads it is the main reason why I have posted this articles.

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Tim has 360 grain loads for the 454. Why weren't they in the article????

This article looks to me like someone trying to sell premium bullets, when heavier, cast bullets, are really superior.

If the 325 is sort of the penetration king, what would a 360, at similar velocity do?

By the way, I use, and like the 325 at 1550.

I would not want to be on the other end of one.

FA no longer reloads? Then the ammo I was just given is now a collectors item.

gs

Wow, I didn't think about that; we just blasted off a bunch. And from the feel of the primer seating operation, the case was stretched to near failure on the first shot. Reloaded them anyway, lighter loads.

Socrates, have you ever thought about reloader 7 in the 454 ? I wonder if it would be the powder to use with the big bullets?

I've thought about it with 250gr and 300gr. I was contemplating something between 20-30 gr for the 300, 25-35gr for the 250. Maybe about 20 gr for a 350-ish bullet?

Socrates and ScottB,

You can see below an other link. This is an article wrote by John Taffin regarding big bore handguns. You can see for .454 Casull a 340 hard cast bullet with more velocity than a 300 gr. And of course with this load a Taylor KO formula 40. I would be more confident back my FA with this kind of load for hunting than with a 240 gr bullet.

http://www.sixguns.com/range/beyondthe44.htm

I own 3 brands of revolvers in .454 Casull
one Taurus RB, one Ruger SRH and one FA.

Regarding cast bullet more than 325 gr of weight only FA revolver "recommend" (this is not official) this kind of load. You can find factory load with a 360 fr bullet at BBA or Cor-born. I have had contact with a person from FA, she told me that LBT is out of business. But I can't confirm it. Taurus doesn't recommend hot loads like 360 gr bullet. For Ruger I suppose we can use a 340 gr bullet without problems. I'm looking for reloading tables with H110 for bullet 340 and 360 gr for my FA revolver. Hope you can help me on it. RGDS

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All I have are loads for hard core FA bullets using H110.

I wonder, though, if reloader 7 would offer a safe pressure for a heavy bullet? Safe meaning Taurus safe.

Scott,

I tried Reloader 7 in my 357 Herret. I was loading a 200 gr WFN, tried 2400, H110, AA 1680 and RL 7. RL 7 was way to slow, I was getting ~1300 fps with huge deviations, and no increase in velocity with increasing charges. AA 1680 was getting 1900-2000 fps, H110 1700-1800.

My thoughts are RL 7 is outstanding in straightwalled rifle cases (my favorite with 350 gr in the 458 lott), but too slow in a revolver. I'd contact Alliant to see what they say about the matter.

BER007:

First: Haven't reloaded in 17 years. Sold my press when I moved to Kawaii.

Haven't bought another since. Room, and no ranges, the major problems.

Anyway, that said, I can point you in the direction of some intresting information on the subject:

http://www.sixgunner.com/linebaugh/Default.htm

His articles are very good on heavy bullets.

http://www.sixgunner.com/

Look at John Taffins, Paco Kelly, Lee Jurras, and a few of the other pistol legends posts, and their articles are posted in the archives here.

If you have specific questions, they often wander through the forum on this site.

I will say that, Ross Seyfried, John Linebaugh, Tim Sundles, Ms. Linebaugh, and many others, have suggested that with the 45, a 325 flat nose is ideal, with a 345-360 avaliable, but only special, super hard, heat treated ones, for large animals, like cape buffalo and jumbo.

Bears apparently respond well to 325's at 1300-1500 from a guy that hunted tons of them, in the North, according to one of the guys there.

As for R 7, I believe my main stay powders where WW 296, and H-110.

It's been so long, I should go back and have a look the offerings, for conversations' sake, but, until I'm pulling the handle, doesn't matter much.

gs

Socrates,

I have purchased John Taffin's book (Big Bore Sixguns). I'm waiting for the postman with it. I hope I will have some infos regarding loads for .454 Casull in this book.

Thanks for the links, I have already visit some of these web pages.RGDS

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An other article from Sixgun about Ruger SRH in .454 Casull

http://www.sixguns.com/range/454_super_redhawk.htm

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ber007,

just checked the quickload and the R-7 doesn't give much in the way of speed, nor pressure for that matter. what are some of your better taurus safe loads? what brass do you recommend as the win stuff i have doesn't seem to hold up? tried any viht powders? thanks for any input, nate

nated,

See this link regarding case in .454 Casull

http://www.sixgunner.com/mcpherson/454case.htm

In my Taurus I use 2 differents kind of bullets 300 gr Speer and 240 XTP mag Honardy.
Taurus is a very good and accurate revolver. I love its look.

I never use Vith. powder but I use a belgian powder very close to Win 296 powder.

Regarding pressure limit for Taurus is below Ruger and FA.

I use Win brass and SR Mag primers. For these following loads you can use SP Mag because velocity of these loads is around 1550 fps so pressure limit is not reach with these loads.

Speer 300 gr with 30 gr of Win 296 powder (the max is 32.5gr) "slow" heavy recoil

Honardy 240 gr XTP MAg with 33 gr of Win 296 powder (the max is 36.5gr)"fast" heavy recoil

As the case is not full of powder I do a heavy crimp on the case's mouth (little be harder than with full loads). In order to have a great powder burning. With these loads you are safe regarding pressure, accuracy is better than with full loads.
Only with my FA revolver I have nearly full loads (I withdraw 1 gr of powder of max loads and I use SR Mag primers)

Don't hesitate if you have more questions.

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