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I have killed a lot of big game with a revolver and for a lot of years and there is no way in hell that an X-frame S&W appeals to me. They are too large and heavy thus defeating the main purpose fo a handgun which is to be with you at all times because it is portable and easy to carry all day.







All taken with body shot none needed more than 1 shot


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I have no use for the X-frame either. Just too much and not necessary for a hunting revolver. Don't care for the .460 S&W round for that matter.



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Originally posted by artshaw:
If you really think a 300 gr 45 caliber bullet at 2100 fps will not put down any NA big game, there are a lot of guys running about with 45-70 Marlin Guide guns (300 gr @ 2100 fps) who might not agree with you.

A 460 Smith can be found for about $1500, or about the same as a Freedom Arms single action. I doubt any full house custom Single action could be bought for that.

Bottom line is that you don't need anything more than a 45-70-300 to take any big game at ethical handgun ranges. A 460 S&W is a ballistic twin to that and can be handled by a reasonably experienced revolver shooter. The monster handgun cartridges are very impressive but are like using a 600 Nitro rifle when a 375 H&H will do the job just fine.

Remember the Op is starting out. As I said in the beginning a plain old 45 Colt with 250 gr lead bullets at 900 fps is a killing machine that has taken 100s if not 1000s of heads of big game. What worked in 1873 still works today.



The 45-70 is .458 bore diameter, the 460 is .451 bore. The .458 bullets are designed to penetrate large game at those speeds. The .451 revolvers bullets are not, except for the Punch Bullet which works more like a solid


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In addition to the punch bullet, barnes buster, beartooth cast, all the barnes xbp bullets and swift a frames perform well at that velocity and do quite a bit of damage. Though none of that helps ya carry it on a hip holster
 
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Originally posted by RJM:
Ok....a question to all you .475 guys. I am new to the .475 having just bought a 6" FA 83 last summer. Have fired it a few times with several different bullet weights from 350-420 grain. All the loads are running just shy of 1100 fps...which is just fine for the deer and bear I may encounter.

So the question...if recoil up in the 1250-1400 fps range is more than most can tolerate...as NE450 once said to me..."it is just to much of a good thing"...why not just go with the .480 instead?

Yes, one can download a .475 down to .480 levels but one can not load up the .480 to .475 levels...but if all that power is unusable to most mere mortals what is the point? For the same velocity one is going to have more airspace in the case which can sometimes be less accurate ie. trying to make a .357 into a .38 target gun using .357 brass.

The other is bullet selection. Now the FA probably has a little shorter cylinder than some of the custom guns based on a Ruger frame but when using the FA one has to make sure the bullet purchased isn't going to exceed the LOA of the cylinder...

There is a picture I have seen of I believe Tiffin with a huge bison that he shot with a 4.75" FA 83 and the caliber was listed as a .480 Ruger. Putting the bullet in a shorter case didn't seem to hurt anything...

So other than having the extra power available what am I missing in my reasoning...

Thanks...Bob


It's a fair question, and as my experience is with the 480 I wholeheartedly agree. I've found a 400 gr cast @ 1200 fps from a 7 1/2" barrel is all I want in a sixgun in terms of recoil. I've fired several 475's and those few extra grains of powder and extra ~100 fps makes for a signifcant jump in recoil. The 480 can drive 400 gr cast bullets over 1300 fps if you have a mold cut to allow the bullet to be seated out to the end of the cylinder aka 475L powder capacity. But, recoil is back up there.





That said, if I was getting a custom single action I'd request it was chambered in 475 linebaugh simply because it is the standard .475" caliber handgun round. Load it as needed.

It still want to have FA build me a premier mdl 83 with a 6" octagon barrel and both 480 and 475 cylinders. One of these days.


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..well I gave up. Rather than have two cylinders or types of brass hanging around I just found two boxes of Hornady .475 brass like the box that came with the gun...

So I'll just stay with the short nose LBT designed bullets and they will take up a lot of powder space that I don't need at this point anyway...

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Bob that is a good idea. That is one reason I quit loading my light loads in 44 Special brass for my 44 Mag.

I got tired of changing my dies and keeping the brass seperate. I now just use 44 Mag brass for all my loads.


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