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I'm starting a new thread to see what your opinions are. As many of you have read, I didn't like the outcome of my Oryx hunt where I used 300 gr. hard cast bullets. To be fair, I'm not just going to thrown them away. I know they have their place, and would be good for certain situations. However I would like to find a good expanding bullet to use. Does anyone have experience using the CorBon 280 gr. Bonded Core Soft Point or the CorBon 300 gr. JSP? Any other suggestions are welcome..... Thanks _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | ||
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Lynn Thompson of Cold Steel used factory Hornady 300gr XTP to shoot several different Aussie buffalo [@28 I think, on the video], with great results. However I think it was said that they did not expand, or at least did not expand very much. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have shot several deer with various 240gr HP and SP bullets, in 44 rifles and handguns. All showed signs of expanding, but I have only recovered one, a Speer 240 SP that had expanded perfectly. I shot a pig with a Hornady 225gr Lever Evolution from a 16 " rifle it expanded great and the pig was DRT. My niece killed a pig with the same rifle with the Winchester factory 250gr Nosler Partition, complete penetration, but again DRT. I have shot a couple of pigs in the head with the Speer 270gr Factory SP. Recovered one bullet that had expanded good, but not too much and held a lot of weight. Many consider the Remington 240 SJHP [Scalloped jacketed hollow point] the fastest expander of the 240gr hunting bullets. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Well I really like the Hornady 240gr XTP, BUT I haven't killed anything with it. I like it because it has always opened up every time I've tested it. Also important is the fact that it can be driven fast enough to reliably expand and you can hold the velocity down so that it stays together and penetrates. With 300gr fodder it can be hard to get enough velocity to get them to open up. Well, at least have an OK day  | |||
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The outfitter told me he was concerned about the choice of hollow points for buffalo, but reported that they worked well because they really didn't expand -- at least not at those velocities. I've used that load and it works well. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Get yourself some 300gr Nosler HP's and the search is over. Period. | |||
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Does anyone load those in a factory cartridge? I don't reload..... _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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your search is really over, try double tap's either 200 or 225 grain barnes xpb loads, i believe the 200 is loaded to over 1600fps and 225 is 1500fps, all within saami pressure. DO NOT be put off by the lower weight, the solid copper bullets, be it in a rife or pistol, penetrate much much better than their weight. i have found the 250 grain barnes out of the casull will out penetrate the standard expandables that are 300 grains by a large margin, with these bullets, no bullet failures and they will, in .44 mag, reliably open to an 1" or so. i've shot these into gravel piles, hit 1" metal plates, rocks, etc and not had one fail or broke apart. plus.................they're under $30 a box. | |||
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Double Tap makes a great 320 grain WFN for the .44!!  I have taken a pile of hogs with that load -- all of their ammo that I have used has delivered the goods!"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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If jacketed is what you seek then the Nosler partition is awesome,but unfortunately if you don't reload I don't know where you could find them. However I have seen a few others that have been successful with Buffalo Bore 270JFN and Corbons 280BCSP.Both of these loads penetrate offer some expansion and maybe what you seek. "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,try orderin' someone else's dog around" unknown cowboy | |||
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Eland, my new grafs catalog list Fed 280g swift a-frame v-shoks Speer 270g deepcurl sp winchester 250g Par hp for your 44 mag. I would try these since you do not handload. grafs.com 800-531-2666 | |||
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My thoughts.....if you want factory .44 magnum ammo go to Garrett's web site. In my opinion his are the best. For hand loading I prefer a premium quality cast bullet, and preferably gas checked. RimRock bullets and Mt Baldy Bullet Co. come to mind. You might also go to the GunBlast website for more info. "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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+1 for nosler partitions. In my experience, the partitions expand consistently and hold their wieght/shape better than the other, typically softer jhps. (I think they quit making them) +1 for keeping velocities up. dvnv | |||
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I apologize if someone already mentioned this, but Remington's 240gr JSP is a reasonable bullet, and stil available from Remington. It will deform some, maybe not with the certainty of the XTP, but certainly better than a hardcast hole-driller. I also see that Speer still loads their 270gr jsp and Hornady loads their 300gr XTP - but I couldn't find any real velocity figures for the Hornady. Joe at RealGuns claims he launches the 300gr XTP at 1200+fps from a 7.5" barrel - which seems like it should be fast enough to get the xtp to open up consistently. Just some ideas. Well, at least have an OK day | |||
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I agree. I have not shot game with mine yet, but have a friend that has used them. He guided hunts and gets a chance to see them perform regularly. Says they hammer those pigs hard. In my own test shooting water jugs and various other media, i've seen them expand always, and penetrate deep, not quite as far as hard cast though. Curtis | |||
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 You poor soul. | |||
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The 250 gr Nosler Partition may be the answer as they do expand some yet are darn tough. They are discontinued but Widener's has them on clearance for ~$20.box or so. I bought a pile of 'em a month or so ago. | |||
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Oops, just noted that you do not reload... | |||
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Widener's only has the handgun Partition in 38 & 45 cal. Richard | |||
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