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I've hunted elk and whitetail with Freedom Arms 475 Linebaugh, limiting my shot to 35 yards. This really isn't much of a limitation because I was hunting in extremely thick woods. I got no shots, and the Model 83 was sold. I have access to a T/C 454 Casull with 7.5-inch barrel, 2X scope, and "hunting" bipod. Since I consider this combination to really be a short rifle, I want to extend my limit to 135-165 yards. Using hard cast 300-grain Saeco (#058, 454 SWC-GC) bullet that leaves the barrel at 1400-1550 ft/sec, how high is the confidence level that this bullet will penetrate "through-and-through" on elk - including one shoulder - at 135 yards? At 165 yards? It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. Sam Levinson | ||
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I shot a cow elk at 70 yards with my .475 Linebaugh revolver using a 400 grain Speer Gold Dot. Broke the left femur (entry) and recovered the bullet under the hide on the right shoulder. Shot a Gemsbok at nearly 100 yards with my .454 using a 260 FA jacketed bullet. Jacket separated and lodged in the right femur, core was found in the liver. Shot a cow elk at 25 yards with my .44 mag using a 300 grain TC cast bullet. Complete pass through from front left shoulder out just before the right hindquarter. I have a pretty good feeling you will get complete penetration with the bullet you ar planning to use. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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That should be the case. | |||
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I like hard cast bullets at moderate velocities and at the ranges you are talking about hunting, the velocity should be sufficiently low enough not to tax the material of the bullet. I know it will sound like heresy coming from me, but if you decide to step on the gas with your .454, the 300 and 325 grain Swift A-frames are outstanding bullets. Both can be driven fast without fear of core separation and other nasty behavior some jacketed expanding bullets exhibit when they come in contact with bone. JMHO. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I'm confident that you will get plenty of penetration. _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Naphtali, I'm not a dyed in the wool hand gunner but I like to try everything so I bought a Freedom Arms Casull in 454 about 20 years ago. My loads had a hard cast 325 grain bullet going about 1300 FPS. I shot a very big caribou bull right in the throat as it faced me with its head in line with its chest. I found the bullet just under the skin about 2 inches from the anus. The shot was 45 yards and the bull went straight down and hardly twitched. I think you'll get all the penetration you'll need on elk or anything else at moderate ranges. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I know a 315 gr 44 bullet at 900fps well shoot through side to side of a 250lb black bear. Or at 1200fps almost completely length wise of one the same size. | |||
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Now we're talking .45 Colt levels (+P obviously), so it depends on how you want to run it. I shot a 2,000-lb water buffalo with my .454 Bisley loaded with .45 Colt + P loads and one bullet exited and the other two were actually poking through the skin on the offside shoulder. So yes, at .45 Colt velocity levels the hard cast bullet (a good one) is a hard combination to beat. Start stepping on the gas and running it like a .454 and hard cast bullets aren't necessarily optimal on really big animals. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Whit: What bullet? I just loaded 1400 320gr Hammerheads in the Colt. I don't load to the max, I do like to get out and shoot a couple hundred at a session so I load 'em down a bit. 20gr H110 is tolerable recoil with Hogue grips on a 7 1/2" Blackhawk. Only time I carried it hunting I hadn't shot it much so stuck with the '06. I've had a few elk come along unexpected when the rifle was out of reach and never had a pistol big enough I felt comfortable enough using on them so let 'em walk. With a bit of recent practice I'd feel confident in a 100yd shot with it. I do a lot of 100yd practice just for such happenings. Thanks, George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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You should have no trouble shooting side to side on a elk with that load. | |||
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