Just got back from range. I was shooting some Lee 310 cast no GC in front of 15 & 16 grains of 2400. Both shot pretty good. Not much difference in recoil or point of aim. Has anyone used this combo for deer-hog load? I know it's not as much punch as H110/296 but it seems like a pretty good midrange load. I'm shooting 2 SBH 7 1/2 & 4 5/8.
I know 110/296 works well but I've got a bunch of 2400 and I like it for loads that are a little under max. I obviously don't need max velocity when I'm shooting 310 loads for deer and hogs out of a 44 mag or 400 gr out of a 475 Linebaugh. 110/296 is great in both but I'm using Trailboss and Unique for mild loads and Imr4227 and 2400 for intermediate loads. I'm a fan of big slow and accurate. Thanks for your responses
It would take quite the deer to stop that bullet. So what if you give up 100 fps or so. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on deer. Accuracy always trumps velocity, and if you shoot the 2400 load better, that's the one to use.
__________________________________________________ The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time.
Posts: 7213 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 27 February 2001
I have also used the Lee on paper only so far, and like Bf shooter, I use the 296 load. They shoot great out to 100yds. I am pouring them with an alloy which air cooled, comes out at about 13bhn. It shows just a hint of flattening of the nose in the soft sand I used for a backstop at 50yds. Unfortunately the hogs haven't cooperated with me on testing it just yet, but their time will be coming.
I have however used the Lee 452 300gr version out of my 454 at around 1350fps on a hog at 87yds and it rolled her rear over ears. I highly doubt that the differences in results of the two, will be that much when I drop the hammer on the 44.
How well is that bullet working without the gas check? A friend of mine casts those and says he does ok with them and no GC. I have a few to try, but am a little skeptical about useing a bullet designed for a gas check wihout. I usually prefer a good flat base lead bullet. I even usually shy away from them bevel base things.
I started out loading this bullet with out the gas check with out sizing, it shot into about 2 inchs at 25 yards. Vel was 1320 with a max load of H110.
I then gased checked and sized it. with same load of powder vel dropped to 1280 group sized was one ragged hole.
This was out of a 5.5 redhawk kills things well with or with out gas check.
Posts: 19835 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001
bullbob, I bought the Lee for the same reason most people do. It was $20. It makes good bullets. I don't use gas checks and it shoots good. I agree that it is designed for them and would probably shoot better with them. But even without them it shoots as good as I can with iron sights and I use water dropped WW sized to .430. No signs of leading with this bullet or several others I use all without gas checks. I don't try and push them too fast nad that probably helps. I thought about machining mold to remove gas check but that was going to leave with a lighter bullet than I wanted. Thanks for all the input fellas. I'm an old rifleman but still learning about handgun hunting and bullet casting and appreciate everything you guys tell me.
You don't have to mill the face of the mold to shorten it to remove the gc shank. Use a rotary burr to remove the peening around the pins that hold the handles on the mold. Then remove the handles, then the sprue plate. Check the mold in a 4 jaw in a lathe, and zero in the mold cavity. Bore the base of the molt to .430", and repeat on the other cavity.
I've done this to several lee molds, works like a champ to turn a gc mold into a plainbase.
__________________________________________________ The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time.
Posts: 7213 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 27 February 2001
Good idea Paul. I would just take off spru plate and mill hole to .430 but I don't really need any heavier. I'd like a 300 gr, flat base but the Lee is OK so far. That's one of the good things about Lee molds. You can try different things and if they don't work you're out $20. I took a 440 gr .500 Lee mold and machined off base to get a nice 380 gr flat base for my brother's 500 WE because that was the weight he liked. I usually make my own sizing dies but also use Lee push through and a Lyman 450. Pan lube has worked good for them also.