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I have had 2 in the past,a Marlin and a Ruger Redhawk 2 3/4"...Now I am having another one done in a Vaquero..I have used Jacks "Hotter" load which is Great,but I am considering some Barnes Handgun "X" Type bullets in 275gr(huge coffee drinking hollow point),a 325 and 375gr pointed jobs! Question is anyone try these in the 50JRH or similar (50 Wyoming or 500 Linebaugh)If so,what loads and velocities and and "Results" on Game or Trees?...Thanks  "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | ||
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How about the pointy Remington 385gr HP in the 500 S&W at smokin speeds...a damned flying ashtray if I ever saw one. How about half dollar sized mushrooms!!! The load...39.5gr Lil Gun and an OAL of 2.165 for 1800fps over the chrony. This is with an Encore bbl of 8". Yes, it does get your hand shaking after 5 or 6 rounds. | |||
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jwp475 has a .500 JRH and a .500 Linebaugh, but he is "busy" tonight (I'll let his explain that  )........but I will bet ducks to dollars that he's never loaded a jacketed bullet in either......."Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I may try some of the Barnes originals on deer next year, but to date my .500 Linebaugh hasn't had a jacketed bullet down the bore. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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Why start now? What's your favorite load, Hitman?"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I have used them on a deer in my S&W 500 Mag, they worked very good, a complete pass through. You cannot use them in the 500 Linebaugh or any other 500 that are .510, the Barnes bullets are .500. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Thats Right! I just realized that..the 500JRH is .500,but the otheres I mentioned are .510...well,that solves that problem! Thanks for the heads up! 425 Cast at 1300 will put anything I hit properly to sleep  "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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I don't know Whitworth, just to punch a hole clean through something with a jacketed bullet. We've shot them from a .50 Alaskan with good performance. As far as the .500 Linebaugh, I shoot either 14.0 of HS6 or 27.0 of H110/WW296 behind a 450 grain Keith I cast. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out. | |||
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Hitman, how long is the barrel on your .500 and how fast is that 110/296 load? Just curious. I am plotting my next revolver build and it will be a .500 Linebaugh -- probably another SRH....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I know a few guys that only use the Barnes 275 and 325 bullets in there 500 Mags. They have no complains what so ever. The accuracy is very good with them, I don't use them much, because they are not cheap. When you are talking over a dollar for just one bullet. I can shoot a lot more hard cast bullets than I can Barnes bullets. As for the 425 cast at 1300 fps, you should have not problem at all. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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If one wished to shoot the Barnes XPB bullets in the 500 Linebaugh (510 diameter) it could be done and done so with accuracy... _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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How is that accomplished? If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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This can be accomplished by paper patching the .500 bullet to the .510 diameter of the 500 Linebaugh. Ross Seyfreid wrote an excellent article a few years agp on paper patching jacketed bullets. More work than I am interested in, but a proccess that may be apealing to residents of Ca. living in the Condor zone. _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I did not even think of that. I used paper patch bullets in my Shiloh Sharps. You would have to make sure the paper patch stayed on from the cylinder to the rifling. Not hard to do in a single shot rifle. I never thought about that for a revolver. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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The transition from the cylinder to the frocing cone could definately present an issue to be dealt with. _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I played with soft lead paper patched bullets in revolvers and the only decent loads were in a Ruger Blackhawk .45Colt with 250grainers around 1000fps. I got the impression that full powered loads in a Smith.44Mag and FA .454Casull suffered from too much bullet distortion and I attributed it to chamber chamfer and forcing cone stresses. A few undamaged recovered bullets evinced accordion-like wrinkles on the bullet shanks with paper imbedded between the folds. Perhaps a hard bullet would make the transition successfully? I aggree with JWP475 about the added work for questionable performance increase of paper patching. Dual alloy (soft nose/hard base) bullets provided much better accuracy and very nice nose upset but, again, a lot of rigamarole - especially when a simple hard nose FP works just fine on light targets anyway. | |||
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guess i have to ask why. they cost twice what a good hard cast bullet would and arent as reliable on game. I did alot of fooling with cast soft points and Hps last year in the 500 linebaugh. In penetration testing they did about as well as premium bullets like the hawk soft points. I thought i was really on to something until i took them hunting. Buddy and i took our 500 linebaughs to the friends game ranch to bring home some meat and cull some unwanted animals. We shot pigs rams and a buffalo. Bottom line is the soft points and hps failed miserably and not just on the buffalo they failed even on the sheep that ran about 200 lbs. In just about every instance they failed to penentrate suffeciently to kill well. We chased wounded animals around all day. DOnt think for a minute because your using a 500 that with a soft point your going to unlease all kinds of energy. Most of the animals we shot with them barely reacted to being shot. I think the problem with this therory is that the 500 is so big to start with that when you expand it it just doesnt have the power required to push a bullet that big through an animal. Id never try it again on anything bigger then a whitetail deer and even then if your 500 with a good hardcast isnt killing deer well youd better go back to the range as you need some practice. | |||
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You are spot on IMHO. The 50 cal XPB bullets will be a necessity for those living in the Condor range in California, since any bullet containing lead has been banned. _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Lloyd, that is why I stick with hard cast bullets in my handguns. But I will say the Barnes XPB in the 500 Mag, will work well on game larger than deer. The extra velocity of the S&W 500 Mag will push them bullets through bigger animal. Personally I don't like soft nose or hollow point bullets, but I don't consider Barnes XPB bullet as true hollow points even though they have hollow points. They are just a totally different design. But again the cost of the Barnes bullets is what makes, the hard cast bullet even a better option. And I agree 100% with your last statement. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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The best solution is for all hunters to move out of the socialist state of Kalifornia!  | |||
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Just remember, there is no such thing as over kill... If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Some of that factory stuff for our big bores costs as much as my friend gets into for each .50 BMG round. No thanks, I will stick with cast. | |||
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