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10MM Hunting load
22 August 2009, 11:47
Moonshot10MM Hunting load
I noticed it's been awhile for this type of a thread. I have a Glock 20. HS-6 seems to be the right powder and a Barnes 155 gr MLE XPB, or whatever they're calling it now should be the right stuff for anything withing reasonable ranges.
Corbon is just too proud of their 180gr BCSP for me not to handload for the 20.
Any thought?
M
22 August 2009, 13:26
HARDBALLERAA#9 and Hornady 200 XTP for me. Assuming you're talking about deer and possibly black bears?
22 August 2009, 19:07
MS HitmanI'm not shooting a 10MM, but my .38-40 does really well on deer with 200 grain cast LFNs and HS-6. I would not recommend such a light bullet, regardless of who made it.
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22 August 2009, 19:10
nordrsetaI'd prefer a 200 @ 1200 myself, though I suppose a 180 would do for deer so long as you keep the bullets off the near side shoulder bones.
22 August 2009, 22:51
WhitworthFirst of all, what are you hunting??
If you don't reload, look no further than Double Tap ammo (www.doubletapammo.com) for all of your 10mm ammo needs. They have 200 and 220 (or 230, don't remember) grain hardcast loads that should prove very effective on game.
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22 August 2009, 22:53
Palladin8I like a 200gr XTP on a full charge of Blue dot @1200fps. The 180gr XTP is supposed to be a pretty good bullet as well. I have tested the 200gr XTP into wet phone book and they penetrated really well as did the 175gr Winchester Silvertip. Both penetrated really well and held together/weight retention. I have heard good things about the Remington Golden Saber bonded bullets.
If you want good factory loaded 10MM ammo look at
www.doubletap.com23 August 2009, 02:20
Big Bore Boar Hunterquote:
Originally posted by MS Hitman:
I'm not shooting a 10MM, but my .38-40 does really well on deer with 200 grain cast LFNs and HS-6. I would not recommend such a light bullet, regardless of who made it.
The stock glock barrels with polygonal rifling are not fond of led bullets, they foul really fast. For deer, a 155 wouldn't be to bad, I would prefer the 180s. Also, watch shooting reloads in glock 10mm and 40 S&W, the barrel does not support the case head under the feed ramp and can burst if the cases have been reloaded.
If you want to shoot reloads and lead bullets, have the barrel replaced with a drop-in unit that has conventional rifling and fully supported chamber. Feeding won't be as reliable as the stock glock, but reloads will be a lot safer.
John
23 August 2009, 07:12
Palladin8Has Glock not addressed the non supported chamber in their newer models? I thought I had read somehere it was corrected in their latest model upgrades. I could be wrong. I know you are not supposed to shoot lead in their barrels.
If the problem hasn't been taken care of I would suggest getting the push through sizer die by Redding and solve the issue. You would still need a new barrel for the lead however.
23 August 2009, 09:10
Big Bore Boar Hunterquote:
Originally posted by Palladin8:
Has Glock not addressed the non supported chamber in their newer models? I thought I had read somehere it was corrected in their latest model upgrades. I could be wrong. I know you are not supposed to shoot lead in their barrels.
If the problem hasn't been taken care of I would suggest getting the push through sizer die by Redding and solve the issue. You would still need a new barrel for the lead however.
Not as of the 3rd generation glocks, haven't checked the 4th generation models yet.
John
24 August 2009, 02:41
MoonshotI don't think I'll be using it for actual hunting in the terms of pursuit. The gun goes to camp and would be on me for game retrieval. So the application would be a finishing shot or making sure that I was the only predator collecting my fallen prey. Using the 20 as my side arm for Hog hunting is also intriguing but I would propably opt for my SuperBlackhawk in 44 mag. Essentially, good penetration out to 25 yds is my requirement. I've shot the 200gr XTP from DBL Tap and they don't group very well. The 180gr version might be worth a look.
Mike McNett has some ballistic info on the 155gr Barnes XPB that make it sound viable for my application. Anybody have any experience with these?
M
24 August 2009, 02:55
Big Bore Boar Hunterquote:
Originally posted by Moonshot:
I don't think I'll be using it for actual hunting in the terms of pursuit. The gun goes to camp and would be on me for game retrieval. So the application would be a finishing shot or making sure that I was the only predator collecting my fallen prey. Using the 20 as my side arm for Hog hunting is also intriguing but I would propably opt for my SuperBlackhawk in 44 mag. Essentially, good penetration out to 25 yds is my requirement. I've shot the 200gr XTP from DBL Tap and they don't group very well. The 180gr version might be worth a look.
Mike McNett has some ballistic info on the 155gr Barnes XPB that make it sound viable for my application. Anybody have any experience with these?
M
I wouldn't feel bad about the 10mm as a hunting gun for the smaller of the big game species. But for hog, the 44 makes better sense.
John
24 August 2009, 05:04
jeffeosso180gr at 1200 kills pigs and deers just fine. Its all about shot placement
24 August 2009, 16:22
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
180gr at 1200 kills pigs and deers just fine. Its all about shot placement
and adequate penetration.......
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24 August 2009, 19:38
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
180gr at 1200 kills pigs and deers just fine. Its all about shot placement
and adequate penetration.......
that too!
25 August 2009, 13:57
MoonshotI guess I should rig up some sort of penetration test to compare a 180gr XTP and the 155gr Barnes XPB. Barnes has been renowned for accomplishing more with less weight per caliber with their X Bullets. Shouldn't this translate over to the handgun rounds as well? I agree on shot placement being key (isn't it always?) and regarding penetration: the press on these Barnes bullets is for them to track straight after going through a car door or window. That's gotta mean something against a hog's shoulder cartilage.
25 August 2009, 16:41
WhitworthI wouldn't use 180 grain expanding bullets on hogs -- sure they will work on the smaller ones, but if that big beast of a boar shows up at the party......you know where I am going with this.
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
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25 August 2009, 20:09
Woodrow SDoubletap 10MM 200gr hardcast should get the job done. Thats what I am taking on a Tennessee boar hunt in October. They also make a 230gr hardcast as well.
25 August 2009, 22:01
youngoutdoorsI use the 200 gr XTP in a muzzle loader and have passthroughs at 200 yds on broad side shots. Pretty good exit holes. I like 'em. God Bless, Louis
25 August 2009, 22:02
MoonshotIt's looking like I'm going to have to ask: Does anyone have experience with the CORBON 180gr BCSP? The Nuge used this load successfully against a Cape Buffalo. Whether this was staged or not, I can not say. Ted has always been a straight shooter, where hunting is concerned, regarding ethics and real performance (be it arrow or bullet). It's surreal, to be sure, to wrap one's mind around the concept of the 10MM hunting in Africa.
26 August 2009, 02:32
Palladin8Well the only corbon ammo in 10MM I have experience with is the 135gr Pow R ball. If I were going to be hunting with the 10mm I would be using either the 200gr XTP or 200gr cast bullet. The 180gr XTP might work as well. I would look at double tap ammo. Maybe get one of their multi packs and try 4 different loadings for your self to see which one performs best in your pistol and go from there.
14 September 2009, 10:29
MoonshotThe 200gr cast solid WFNGC from Double Tap looks interesting. With 700+ ft. lbs. at muzzle, this one is to look out for.
14 September 2009, 23:43
Palladin8Moonshot,
You would need to replace the barrel in order to shoot cast bullets. That's the downside of owning a Glock. Drop in barrels are not that expensive though. If you don't want to buy a barrel I would suggest going with the 200gr XTP. Double Tap carries them as well.