I was at the range today shooting my .454 Casull and my .41 Mag. Several people were fasinated with the .454, but no one wanted to shoot it after I offer, because they had heard that it would lead to future chontic pain in the wrist/hand area. I have never heard such medical claims. Has anyone heard anything similar?
Cannot wait to get a .500 Linebaugh!!!!!
Thanks
Posts: 146 | Location: CA. USA | Registered: 08 February 2002
To reduce shooting problems to wrist and hand, I advice you to shoot with shooting gloves only. That help you to handle better the sharp recoil of .454 Casull.
I have heard little wrist problem with the .500 Linebaugh short. This only the day after shooting day. But all shooters are different what's hurt me, doesn't hurt you necessary.
For sure you'll have lot of fun with you .500 Linebaugh.
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Posts: 831 | Location: BELGIUM | Registered: 23 May 2002
John Taffin has recently been reporting on the cumulative negative effects of shooting thousands of rounds of heavy big bore cartridges. He complains of carpal tunnel like symptoms and having been diagnosed with numerous "small bone breaks" in the base of his hand and wrist. YMMV, and his shooting is somewhat more extensive than most of us are ever likely to experience...
I do have wrist problems. Can it be attributed to large bore handguns? Never had it before I started shooting my 430 JDJ, 358 Win, 45-70 in my T/C Contender or Lone Eagle. Doesn't hurt while shooting, but it does bother me when trying to pick up heavy items.
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Posts: 1058 | Location: Lodge Grass, MT. Sitka, Bethel, Fort Yukon, Chevak, Skagway, Cantwell and Pt. Hope Alaska | Registered: 24 June 2000
I like to play it up. I tell them there are people who have lost the use of their whole arm due to shoulder damage, and the nerve damage can cause your hand to curl up and atrophy in your sleep. That is, if you don't know what you are doing
And while these things can be prevented with proper musculature control and some degree of strength, the detached retinas really hurt your eyesight. After all, I used to be a better shot, but I just can't hardly see anymore...
And then I talk about the neck problems some people have experienced, and tell them about cases of some people getting boxer's syndrome, with permanent slurred speech, and not less than two reported brain aneurisms.
They usually respond that they will just stick to their Glock 40, that's all the power they need. Then I'll have my wife shoot the casull a few times. it is always a hoot
If I shoot anymore then 50 full horse loads in my .500 I can feel it in the wrist the next day. But I had corple tunnel done on both of my wrist because of work related use and they have never really been the same since. But for some odd reason I had the same problem before I met my new girlfreind!!
Posts: 1404 | Location: munising MI USA | Registered: 29 March 2002
It could be funny for you but after shooting 90 rounds of 7.62TT out of my CZ-52 in few minutes (I have 9shots magazines), I felt real pain in forefinger and slight pain in palm . . .
I have some pretty bad hand and wrist problems unrelated to shooting, but i don't find that heavy pistol loads do anything to aggravate it. But I generally don't shoot more than 160 rounds of the casull at a time, and it is the taurus, so that helps. Plus, I don't load nearly as hot as I could. My favorite load is still 250gr @ 1400+fps
I'm new to the big bore magnums. I've shot pistols for many years without gloves.
I've found that great grip fit makes a world of difference over a day of shooting- no need for gloves, just one more bit of gear to forget at home.
That said, as i approach .454 Casull loads (FA Premier grips- fit me ok, and so pretty!) I'm looking for a shooting glove. I guess I'm a wimp- I may even start shooting with two hands!
Uncle Mikes or PAST? What is the best- since I'll be mail ordering.
Pete
ps- just got some Cast Performance bullets in the mail- they look like little jewels.
I had to get rid on my contender because it was too painfull to shoot. I have been putting carpal tunnel surgery off for some years and a day at the range agrevated it terriable. The 45/70 just put me in tears after a few shot. It got to where even the 7 tcu was painfull. I miss the handgun and have thought about getting a super blackhawk in hopes it was the style of the contender that caused the discomfort. Would love to own a .480 Ruger.
consider a 44 bisley instead there alot more comfortable to shoot my superblackhawk can be more painful to shoot then my lienbauhs
quote:Originally posted by Jacobite: I had to get rid on my contender because it was too painfull to shoot. I have been putting carpal tunnel surgery off for some years and a day at the range agrevated it terriable. The 45/70 just put me in tears after a few shot. It got to where even the 7 tcu was painfull. I miss the handgun and have thought about getting a super blackhawk in hopes it was the style of the contender that caused the discomfort. Would love to own a .480 Ruger.
Posts: 1404 | Location: munising MI USA | Registered: 29 March 2002
I was warned that I'd get warts, hadn't got even one. Was also warned I'd go blind, I'm 56 and just now need glasses. It's all in the grip, firm but consistant. Good fit is of course important but allowing the weapon to complete its follow through is paramount. My first bowling coach said it best...... Head down,Ass up, eye on target, follow through. But what did he know...I've rolled seven 300's. GIG'EM AGS...Jim....
I have both and dont really care for either. What I like is a tight fitting thin leather glove. The padding in the shooting gloves makes it harder to grip the gun properly.
quote:Originally posted by stinkeypete: I'm new to the big bore magnums. I've shot pistols for many years without gloves.
I've found that great grip fit makes a world of difference over a day of shooting- no need for gloves, just one more bit of gear to forget at home.
That said, as i approach .454 Casull loads (FA Premier grips- fit me ok, and so pretty!) I'm looking for a shooting glove. I guess I'm a wimp- I may even start shooting with two hands!
Uncle Mikes or PAST? What is the best- since I'll be mail ordering.
Pete
ps- just got some Cast Performance bullets in the mail- they look like little jewels.
Posts: 1404 | Location: munising MI USA | Registered: 29 March 2002
Hey Stinkypete, I use the PAST glove regularly. The padding really helps. I started using it with my .308 Striker. It is a little difficult wrapping my hand around the stock Encore grip, but it's too fat anyway. I get more pain out of that grip due to the way it fits my hand, so I've been reshaping it a little at a time. I'm sure with the right grip I wouldn't need the glove. BTW the Encore is kicking me with the .30-06, and the .50 cal blackpowder and a 470 grain slug. Ouch!
Posts: 207 | Location: Sacramento, CA, USA | Registered: 15 February 2002
Proper hold and grip makes a big difference, as well as how one shoots off the bench. When I was first developing loads for the 480, I was regularly mashing my second finger on the trigger guard. I also drew blood on my thumb knuckle from where the frame ends and the grip begins the first time I shot my gun, funny as I shot my buddies 480 twice, and didn't draw blood with it.
Let the gun move in recoil, as it will! Just make sure you move with it, and don't let it bite you. If you shoot of the bench, be darned sure you don't have your elbows resting on the bench, I used to do that, and even with sandbags under, them, they got beat. I like to have the grip supported on a sandbag at the edge of the bench, and my elbows well bent. The gun will just roll back in recoil. One reason I don't like breaked handguns, I want them to roll!
If you want a 480, go get one, you can load it from mild to pretty wild. I'll be updating my loads on the favorite load forum once I get some Lil Gun. I have some other mild loads to add as well. The only thing I plan to change is adding a packmeyr decelerator grip.
Posts: 7213 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 27 February 2001
I'm with Paul H.--let the gun move! Even heavy loads are tolerable if you work up to it. My worst load (a test load only) has been a 370 gr. WFNGC Cast Performance Bullet at 1300 in my 5 shot 45 LC. It has a thump, but sure is fun to shoot.
quote:Originally posted by HH60AV8R: I think there is is a point where PAIN and PLEASURE intersect,the first being big bore handguns, the second being Hot Sauce.
Anyone agree??
Yep. Goes for really rambunctious sex too...
Posts: 1006 | Location: northern Sweden | Registered: 22 May 2002
It's funny about recoil, I can shoot really scary .41RemMag loads all day without problems but just a few .44RemMag loads at the same power level out of a like gun (14 scoped Contender)just kills me. I don't like to shoot my 45-70 to much either. My oldest son just eats that 45-70 up. I use shooting gloves(Past) when I'll be doing lots of range work, seldom use them while hunting.
Posts: 218 | Location: Sand Hills of NC | Registered: 21 May 2002
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