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Question on 500 JRH
23 March 2010, 08:02
MS HitmanQuestion on 500 JRH
I may be getting a really good deal on a 6½" barrel BFR in 500JRH. Does anyone have any recent experience with this caliber and revolver?
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23 March 2010, 16:32
WhitworthHmmmm is it a coincidence that bfrshooter and I just got through testing one in .500 JRH with a 6.5-inch barrel? It's a great piece, but a horse off of the bench (I have the busted knuckles to prove it!). The 425 grain loads all went well over 1,400 fps and I was able to get a 3-shot group at just over an inch at 50 yards. Hitman, I can give it to you real cheap.......
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23 March 2010, 18:06
bfrshooterNo you don't, I have dibs on that gun!
Hitman might hurt himself with it. He would also drool all over it like I did.
23 March 2010, 19:29
WhitworthYet I always get stuck with the enviable task of shooting them off of the bench.......
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24 March 2010, 01:41
TBEAR99hitman no it is junk send it my way i will give you fair scrap price to ease the pain
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24 March 2010, 02:54
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by TBEAR99:
hitman no it is junk send it my way i will give you fair scrap price to ease the pain
LOL!!
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24 March 2010, 06:46
MS HitmanNo, Whitworth it's not coincidence. Someone else is thinking about selling one for a price too low to mention. He says the recoil is horrible; enough to beat former marines into submission and give gunwriters nightmares.
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24 March 2010, 07:22
ruger270With the 500 JRH, couldn't a person load it down to make it "manageable" and still shoot through anything that walks? The brutal recoil is certainly fun, in a sadistic sort of way, but I can't imagine game-getting performance is enhanced, especially if the person shooting it is flinching so badly that they can't shoot the gun worth a darn.
24 March 2010, 16:32
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by MS Hitman:
No, Whitworth it's not coincidence. Someone else is thinking about selling one for a price too low to mention. He says the recoil is horrible; enough to beat former marines into submission and give gunwriters nightmares.
Really? Sounds suspicious to me.....
I understand there is someone here that tells lies and spreads vicious rumors -- kinda like a female......
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24 March 2010, 16:34
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by ruger270:
With the 500 JRH, couldn't a person load it down to make it "manageable" and still shoot through anything that walks? The brutal recoil is certainly fun, in a sadistic sort of way, but I can't imagine game-getting performance is enhanced, especially if the person shooting it is flinching so badly that they can't shoot the gun worth a darn.
It's not so bad -- nothing a bisley grip frame couldn't cure. It's still easier to shoot than lightweight double-action .500 Linebaughs......
One should simply spend as little time on the bench as possible with any of these guns -- but when you're sighting in and shooting for groups......you just have to deal with it.
The low velocity 440 grain load is actually quite comfortable.
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24 March 2010, 19:54
ruger270I usually like to shoot the big boomers from a standing rest. It really helps to take the punishment out of sighting in.
25 March 2010, 03:58
Redhawk1Why would they find it having to much recoil, my BFR in 500 Mag is not to much, even with 440 gr. bullets at 1800 fps.
Can't you shoot 500 Specials in the 500 JHR also.
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25 March 2010, 04:32
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Why would they find it having to much recoil, my BFR in 500 Mag is not to much, even with 440 gr. bullets at 1800 fps.
Can't you shoot 500 Specials in the 500 JHR also.
Why? Because it is about half the size (and weight) of the big framed BFR.
1,800?! How on God's green earth have you managed to get 1,800 fps out of your .500? I don't think my .50 Alaskan will get that kind of speed......
Not trying to be a contrarian, but have you actually chronographed that load, cuz by my calculations, you're about 200 fps too fast.......
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25 March 2010, 05:33
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by MS Hitman:
No, Whitworth it's not coincidence. Someone else is thinking about selling one for a price too low to mention. He says the recoil is horrible; enough to beat former marines into submission and give gunwriters nightmares.
Really? Sounds suspicious to me.....
I understand there is someone here that tells lies and spreads vicious rumors -- kinda like a female......
Lies and vicious rumors, that a powerfull accuzation
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25 March 2010, 05:34
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Why would they find it having to much recoil, my BFR in 500 Mag is not to much, even with 440 gr. bullets at 1800 fps.
Can't you shoot 500 Specials in the 500 JHR also.
1800 FPS WOW that's realy moving, is that a 14" barrel or longer?
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25 March 2010, 05:54
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by jwp475:
quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by MS Hitman:
No, Whitworth it's not coincidence. Someone else is thinking about selling one for a price too low to mention. He says the recoil is horrible; enough to beat former marines into submission and give gunwriters nightmares.
Really? Sounds suspicious to me.....
I understand there is someone here that tells lies and spreads vicious rumors -- kinda like a female......
Lies and vicious rumors, that a powerfull accuzation
Hey, if the shoe fits........
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25 March 2010, 06:03
jwp475What shoes?????
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25 March 2010, 06:31
WhitworthThe one you're trying on right now.......
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25 March 2010, 07:30
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by jwp475:
quote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Why would they find it having to much recoil, my BFR in 500 Mag is not to much, even with 440 gr. bullets at 1800 fps.
Can't you shoot 500 Specials in the 500 JHR also.
1800 FPS WOW that's realy moving, is that a 14" barrel or longer?
That is from when it was a 10 inch barrel. The load was what I got from Peter Pi of Cor-bon. I think they have since as well as I have backed off that load. It was manageable, but after 10 rounds the hand stung a bit. But I am still over 1500 fps with my load currently, with a 6 inch barrel.
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25 March 2010, 07:39
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Why would they find it having to much recoil, my BFR in 500 Mag is not to much, even with 440 gr. bullets at 1800 fps.
Can't you shoot 500 Specials in the 500 JHR also.
Why? Because it is about half the size (and weight) of the big framed BFR.
1,800?! How on God's green earth have you managed to get 1,800 fps out of your .500? I don't think my .50 Alaskan will get that kind of speed......
Not trying to be a contrarian, but have you actually chronographed that load, cuz by my calculations, you're about 200 fps too fast.......
I did not look at the size of the frame, my 510 GNR is a handful with 435 gr. hard cast.
Whitworth you are correct, that was my 370 gr.bullet with the 1800 plus volicity, I was getting 1703 fps with my 440 gr. with 40 gr. of Lil Gun powder (Cor-bon load data)in my BFR 500 Mag. Yes that was over a chronograph.
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26 March 2010, 05:48
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
The one you're trying on right now.......
Why would I be tring on shoes?? I wear boots
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26 March 2010, 07:26
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by jwp475:
quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
The one you're trying on right now.......
Why would I be tring on shoes?? I wear boots
Well, if the boots fit......
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26 March 2010, 16:29
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by jwp475:
quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
The one you're trying on right now.......
Why would I be tring on shoes?? I wear boots
Well, if the boots fit......
The Rio of Mercedes boots fit very well
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26 March 2010, 16:39
WhitworthGlad we've established this.
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26 March 2010, 19:25
MS HitmanWell, the deal fell through. Anything that just whips down a former Marine like I heard about that thing just doesn't interest me too much. Think I'll stick with my .51 caliber and just use a real revolver instead of a sub-caliber trainer.
How's the hand Whitworth?
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26 March 2010, 20:16
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by MS Hitman:
Well, the deal fell through. Anything that just whips down a former Marine like I heard about that thing just doesn't interest me too much. Think I'll stick with my .51 caliber and just use a real revolver instead of a sub-caliber trainer.
How's the hand Whitworth?
My hand is fine, how is your ego doing?
Boy I tell ya, nothing a Bisley grip can't cure......
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27 March 2010, 00:33
MS HitmanI have six children; I gave up my ego for Lent. Thanks for asking though.
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27 March 2010, 00:54
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by MS Hitman:
I have six children; I gave up my ego for Lent. Thanks for asking though.
LOL!! You crack me up!
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