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454 Factory loads...TOO HOT???

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10 August 2001, 22:42
POP
454 Factory loads...TOO HOT???
I shot my new 454 Ruger SRH today. I had 2 boxes of Winchester 260 gr factory ammo. I shot rounds from both boxes. Velocity was 1680 fps and accuracy good! The rated velocity for these factory loads are 1800 fps according to Winchester. However the cases refused to extract from the chambers! I had to use a dowel to remove them. (Actually 2-3 rounds stuck from each cylinderfull). I stopped after 12 shots. Has anyone ever experienced this before with factory ammo? Any unput?

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11 August 2001, 01:51
Tombo21
Yeah, it happened to mine. Surprise! It was also with the Winchester loads. I have now fired the CorBon,Hornaday and my own reloads. I have not experienced the problem since I stopped using the Winchester loads.
11 August 2001, 03:28
GeorgeS
It could be a combination of rough chambers and soft brass. Are there any visible marks on the outside of the brass cases (other than the ones caused by pounding them out of the cylinder)?

George

P.S. I TOLD you not to buy that Ruger

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11 August 2001, 05:07
Cannon
My brother has the SRH and has fired the
Winchester loads without a problem. However, for what it's worth, I have a friend at the Olin plant where this stuff is made and he politely refused to shoot this combination when offered -- and he shoots everything else we own.
15 August 2001, 09:29
<Patrick>
I have learned to avoid Win brass in heavy .45 Colt loads for the same problem. I've also seen this refered to in magazine articles about heavy .44 and .45 loads. You are not necessarily experiencing too heavy a load, but rather just sticky brass. Federal brass seems to be the best and is now all I use.
good shooting
15 August 2001, 11:21
POP
It is not the brass or the loads after all. It is the gun and it is on its way back to Ruger. I shot it today with different loads including handloads with a stering charge all the way to 1gr under max. Every load had the same problem regardless. What a bummer.

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"If guns are outlawed...only outlaws will have guns!

"We should not say the Greeks fight like heroes. We should say that heroes fight like Greeks"... Winston Churchill

16 August 2001, 05:01
GeorgeS
POP,

Not bad, huh? I can diagnose gun problems from 1500 miles away!

I TOLD you not to buy that Ruger

George

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Shoot straight, shoot often, but by all means, use enough gun!