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Where can I get .308, 180-grain partitions with a cannelure? I tried all the uusual suspects (Grafs, Midway, Huntington, etc.)with no luck.
 
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Seems like I read on Nosler's site or in their manual that they only make those for ammo companies that load their bullets and said since handloaders tend to experiment with different seating depths, why have a cannelure?


30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking.
 
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They are called "Seconds".

Sometimes you can get them here:
http://www.shootersproshop.com...y-2nds/In-Stock.aspx

It looks like they are out of stock at the moment, but they did have an over run of the 200gr AB for Winchester.
 
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Hornaday used to make a tool to cut a cannelure anywhere on a bullet. May still be in their catalog.
 
Posts: 2173 | Location: NORTHWEST NEW MEXICO, USA | Registered: 05 March 2008Reply With Quote
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CH4D makes a cannelure tool.

http://www.ch4d.com/catalog/?p=90
 
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They are called "Seconds".


Actually I call them A-Frames!


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Where can I get .308, 180-grain partitions with a cannelure? I tried all the uusual suspects (Grafs, Midway, Huntington, etc.)with no luck.


I don't know which Nosler Partitions currently have cannelures, but a a few years ago 308 and 338 did not have canncelures, but 375 and 416s did.

You might look into using the Lee factory crimp die as it allows you to crimp without a cannelure.


Jason

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Posts: 6838 | Location: Nome, Alaska(formerly SW Wyoming) | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Why do you want the Partitions with cannelure?
 
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Why do you want the Partitions with cannelure?
Hey, Steve, you beat me to the 64-dollar question! A cannelure, particularly one applied after the manufacture of the bullet, is a great way to potentially degrade accuracy. The only purpose a cannelure serves is to make a place for a mouth crimp. Again, crimping is a great way to degrade accuracy and is unnecessary except in very limited instances with certain cartridges and actions.
 
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A cannelure can act as an assist to holding the lead core inside the jacket if the cannelure is pressed into the jacket.

Many of Hornady's bullets are cannelured this way and frankly, I've not noticed a loss of accuracy!.....at least of consequence!


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A cannelure can act as an assist to holding the lead core inside the jacket if the cannelure is pressed into the jacket.


That's true. And too, some of the most accurate bullets I have EVER had was some bulk Hornady 55gr bullets that I bought to Pdog shoot with and they had a channelure.


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Why do you want the Partitions with cannelure?


To hold the bullets at the loaded seating depth.

A 338 will "help" seat your bullets further due to recoil. Ask me how I know . . .


 
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A cannelure can act as an assist to holding the lead core inside the jacket if the cannelure is pressed into the jacket.

Many of Hornady's bullets are cannelured this way and frankly, I've not noticed a loss of accuracy!.....at least of consequence!


I am a big, big fan of the Remminton .30 180 grain Cor-loct that has the pressed in cannelure(at 2700fps). The are cheap and accurate and have killed everything I have ever shot with them, and it has only taken one shot. "The deadliest mushroom in the woods" is not just a cheap advertising slogan....


And as far as a cannelure degrading accuracy, I don't doubt it one bit, but 99% of the time you won't notice it in a hunting rifle.


Jason

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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