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22 October 2008, 16:27
Whopper Stopper
Measuring powders like IMR 4350
I have a progressive loader not that it matters as far as my question goes. I bought some IMR 4350 for my 25-06. It is not powder friendly in my Dillon measure. What do you guys do when using a long grained powder that doesn't throw well? I am more or less stuck with this until the pound is gone but from what I see it is very well liked by my rifle. The groups have me hoping you people can enlighten me to a better method for using it. Thanks for any help or tips!

WS
22 October 2008, 17:06
hivelosity
you may have to set the press up as a single stage.
Throw the charge a few tenths under the desired weight then use a trikler to add the remainder. I used this method for years. weighing every thing on a rcbs balance beam scale
22 October 2008, 17:11
DMB
Powders like 4350 and 4831 don't work well in powder measures. You aren't alone with this problem. I think hivelosity has the answer for you.

Don




22 October 2008, 17:37
Longshot
Just how precise are you wanting? Tim Johnsons' Quick Measure will fit on a Dillon press and will throw within +/- .2 with either 4350 or 4831. It is especially made to throw log powder. It is expensive and takes some patients and has a learning curve. I am now convinced that a RCBS 1500 Charge master is the best option used in conjunction with a special powder die. This is how I load my 1000 yard ammo.
Longshot
22 October 2008, 17:49
Jim C. <><
quote:
I bought some IMR 4350 for my 25-06. It is not powder friendly in my Dillon measure. What do you guys do when using a long grained powder that doesn't throw well?

One, I don't use coarse powders in a progressive because I want to see the powder colume in my cases before seating starts.

Two, I don't use progressives because I want to see the powder colume in my cases before seating starts. Wink
22 October 2008, 17:50
buckshot
I also think it would be less of a problem if you were loading for a larger calibre like the 30-06. If you have the older RL450 you could cut the charge weight in 1/2 and throw twice. Of course this would require some fiddling on your part, but it would help you avoid a potential "log" jam at the funnel.
22 October 2008, 18:04
butchloc
i rarely use stick powder in my dillon, but i did buy a hornady measure set up for loading rifle. it works much better than does the dillon on rifle, the dillon i like better for pistol. Unless i'm loading more than 100 rounds at a time, i don't use the progressive, but go back to my old coax
22 October 2008, 20:09
Ol` Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Longshot:
Just how precise are you wanting? Tim Johnsons' Quick Measure will fit on a Dillon press and will throw within +/- .2 with either 4350 or 4831. It is especially made to throw log powder. It is expensive and takes some patients and has a learning curve. I am now convinced that a RCBS 1500 Charge master is the best option used in conjunction with a special powder die. This is how I load my 1000 yard ammo.
Longshot


+1 The Quick Measure works very well.

I`ve no experiance with the measure/scale combos, but they won`t work as well with a progressive as they do a single stage IMO. The combos require you to manually lift the scale pan and dump it in the case. It could be a hassle depending on the press.


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22 October 2008, 21:33
Baldhunter
I wouldn't advise loading a 25-06 with a progressive loader.The pressures can rise quickly with this overbore case.I would accurately weigh each charge when reloading for the 25-06.
23 October 2008, 00:45
fredj338
If you are using stick powders, your best bet is to weigh charges. If you are dead set on using a progressive & powder measure then going to a ball pwoder will make your life a lot easier.


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23 October 2008, 05:41
bartsche
Roll EyesTap-tap-tap fill****Tap-tap-tap dump.

My first powder dispenser was a Redding with a built on tapper. Just got use to the idea 51 years ago and am still tapping. Gets the job done for me. BOOMroger


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23 October 2008, 07:06
Doctor D
quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
Roll EyesTap-tap-tap fill****Tap-tap-tap dump.

My first powder dispenser was a Redding with a built on tapper. Just got use to the idea 51 years ago and am still tapping. Gets the job done for me. BOOMroger


Ditto here. Only mine is a Lyman Ideal #55. Throws stick just fine (Although I do weigh each one).


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