ok, i think i am going to try the RL22 next. I was going to just pick up another pound of H4831, but i think i want to see if i can't get even more velocity and accuracy out of my good ole .270. ok, here are the 3 powders i'm considering...IMR4831, IMR4350, and RE22. what do you guys recommend i try next? i've already tried H4831 and am impressed, but should i pick up some RE22 or what?

What is your barrel length? My Sauer is 25.5" and it loves IMR 7828 with a 140 gr bullet but it needs the length to work. Of the 3 you listed, my other 270s have had the best luck with Rel 22.

rem. 700 w/ 22" bbl. don't think i'm gonna try 7828, least for a while. think i might try the RL22.

I just finished working up (and shooting) various powders in my 24" M700 270 win. I tied 5 loadings each of IMR 4350, RL-22, and IMR 4831. At least one load of each was at max book.

My rifle shot all the IMR 4350 into sub moa groups, often with 2 bullets touching. The max loading did as well as the load 3 grains lower, so that is the one I am going with. RL-22 did around 1 to 1.5", and the IMR4831 did 1.5 to even 2". I started at 54gr of IMR4350 and worked up to 57.

My 30-06 also shot IMR4350 better than others I tried. Bullets were NPs (130 for the 270 and 180s for the 06').

Gotta enjoy it when you find a great load for the partition.

Since you stated that your goal is greater velocity, then Re22 is the answer. I've had excellent results with Re22.

H4831 is so close to IMR that you won't have any gains IMO. IMR4350 is a great all around powder, period.

The best powders in my 270 are

130 gr IMR4350
140 gr IMR4831
150 gr RL22

I have to disagree with Doc (although I usually agree with all his posts ), the same load of IMR4831 and H4831 yielded 231 fps more velocity with the IMR4831. Might be just a batch difference.

57 gr IMR4350 behind a 130 gr TSX is a great load

Woods, you may still agree with Doc, IMR 4831 for you, Doc's post: H4831.

I had higher velocity with R22 when I tested it, but it was very inconsistent velocity wise for me, 60-100 ft swings often. I'm usually an oddball, and fittingly seldom mentioned Win 760 works well for me--but I also have good results as well with IMR 4831, which was a bit faster than the 760 or IMR 4350, the 4350 like others, yielded great accuracy for me in al my .270's.

Good Luck--Don

My 6.5 lb 270 shoots 3 shots with RL-22 and 130gr TSX's into less than an inch at 300yds at the best velocities I got out of it's 20" barrel. Try RL-22 and you'll like it...........DJ

doc, my goal isn't higher velocity. my goal is higher velocity AND higher accuracy. I'd rather have better accuracy then velocity though. a deer won't know the difference. I think that i'm gonna pick up a pound of IMR4350 tomorrow. i'm still not dead set on it. depends on what other people say. and i know every guns different. i'm just trying to get a general opinion of people that have tried BOTH, not one or the other (ppl who can't compare the two).

Woods, if you are getting that much greater velocity with the IMR4831, then you are "on target" so to speak! That is great. I've just never had that much of an increase in velocity myself between Hodgdon vs. IMR. But, what I did mean in my post (as far as my experience goes), was that Re22 gave me a nice difference over the various 4831s all together in terms of velocity (with excellent accuracy to boot).

HOWEVER, and I'm not sure why this is, but I think a lot of us guys leave out Re19 too often. To date, I've developed quite a few loads in 270 with various bullets that I'm very pleased with, using this powder.

so, in just a few words, what do you guys suggest me tryin..oh, by the way..i'm using some very accurate 130gr. Hornady InterLock SP bullets. they are very accurate.

My vote goes to RL 22.

I've tried the others: IMR 4831, H 4831, IMR 4350, H 4350.

I think that, with a 130 gr. bullet, IMR 4350 may give slightly better accuracy at some sacrifice in velocity (I too use a Remington 700 rifle with a 22 inch barrel -- a lightweight Mountain Rifle), but RL 22 gives me the best combination of accuracy and velocity that I've found for my .270 rifle.

A very good source of information

http://stevespages.com/page8.htm

lists the following for the 130 gr 270 bullet

IMR4350 - 47.1 to 55
IMR4831 - 49.5 to 58
RL19 - 48.4 to 60
RL22 - 51 to 61.3
H4831 - 52 to 62

The burn chart puts the powders in this order

IMR4350
RL19
IMR4831
H4831
RL22

To me this is a demonstration that the Reloader powders vary from bottle to bottle. I learned this from RL22 and 200 gr bullets in a 300 win mag. Worked up a good load at what I thought was 1 to 1.5 below Max but it turned out to be at Max with the next bottle. My present RL19 bottle is very slow, seems to be right next to H4831 and just below RL22.

Now, about 60 or 61 gr powder is getting compressed in the 270 case so I don't know if you can get enough RL22 into a case to reach the extra speed you are trying get.

According to my spreadsheet, I have reached as high as 3300 fps with both the IMR4350 and IMR4831 and the 130 gr bullet before backing down. That's fast enough and I don't know if you can reach those speeds with RL22 or not.

IMR4350

well i just bought a pound of IMR4350. guess we'll have to see how it compares to my H4831. can't wait to test it out

I have had excellent results with IMR 4350, played around with IMR4831, and H4831. I bought a pound of Reloder 22 to try. Haven't done so yet.

SDhunter....what was ur best combination w/ 4350? I have 150gr. Nosler BT, Hornady 130gr. SP, and Hornady 130gr. SST. what should i try? i loaded up 5 rounds of 57grains last night. gettin ready to do some more.

I've had my best results vel & accrracy wise with IMR 4831 for the 130gr bullets and RL 22 with the 150gr bullets. My 270 win is a Browning BBR with a 22" tube.

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Originally posted by beretta9289:
SDhunter....what was ur best combination w/ 4350? I have 150gr. Nosler BT, Hornady 130gr. SP, and Hornady 130gr. SST. what should i try? i loaded up 5 rounds of 57grains last night. gettin ready to do some more.

Not trying to be nosey here, but hopefully you loaded that 57 gr IMR4350 with the 130 gr bullet, not the 150. Not questioning your ability, just double checking.

I use H4831sc But love RL22 as well.

I think I would go with RL-22, but your 22 inch tube might be good for the slightly faster 4350, IMR rr H, and you might check out the aliant web page.See what they say about RL-19 in you .270 My old FN has a 24 inch barrel and seems to like H-4831 best but it shoots anything prety well...tj3006..tj3006