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I used to use them in my .44 mag years ago.....a fine way to move cast lead a bit faster without leading the barrel badly.....but get this:.....I forgot how I installed the gas checks!!!
I want to install gas checks for a .38 special.....can someone describe how the gas checks are crimped to the bullet?


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I used a Lyman Lubrisizer to crimp gas checks at same time I sized and lubed the bullets.

By the way, if you need one, I no longer cast bullets and plan to get a list of molds, etc. up soon. Will have to check to see if I have the .357 die, but did have at one time.

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but get this:.....I forgot how I installed the gas checks!!!


I find myself in that boat more and more w/age! In fact, my favorite bumper sticker is: "I finally got it all together, but I forgot where I put it". Smiler


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Couple of different ways:

I have snapped the check on the base of the bullet, then crimped it in place with a lubrisizer, as mentioned above.

I have also put the check on the bullet base, and bumped the nose up to expand the base just enough to provide firm purchase with the check.

I think I like the second way the best. I really prefer not to size a bullet if I can get away without doing it...
 
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I use my luber/sizer. I know you know this, but the bullet has to have a heel cut for the GC. thumb


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Not all cast bullets will accept a gas check, it takes a bullet cast in a special mould. Applying it is intuitive. Dr.C


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I tumble lube them with Lee Liquid Alox and then use Lee's luber/sizer die. Gas checks are crimped on during the sizing.
 
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FrownerIt's not good to fire gas checked rifle bullets over your chronograph. They don't always fly directly behind the bullet. Just a little related heads up. NO hijack roger


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FrownerIt's not good to fire gas checked rifle bullets over your chronograph. They don't always fly directly behind the bullet. Just a little related heads up. NO hijack roger


Sounds like the voice of experience. Wink I'll bet muzzle loader (or other) sabbots would be taboo, as well?

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I tumble lube them with Lee Liquid Alox and then use Lee's luber/sizer die. Gas checks are crimped on during the sizing.


Exactly. However, the tumble lube is optional.
 
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FrownerIt's not good to fire gas checked rifle bullets over your chronograph. They don't always fly directly behind the bullet. Just a little related heads up. NO hijack roger


I had a Krag that would jettison 9 out of 10 gas checks right at the muzzle. Had it recrowned and it went down to 7 in 10. Bore didn't look bad at all and it shot pretty well. Never did figure it out.
 
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I use my luber/sizer. I know you know this, but the bullet has to have a heel cut for the GC. thumb
Agree. In the situation where there is no Gas Check undercut on the Bullet, you can always use "Milk Carton Gas Checks". They do right well to protect the Base from Flame Cutting.

I was in a Gun Shop a day or so ago and noticed some "Lubed Felt Wads" in the Black Powder section for the 44/45 revolvers. Not real sure how the "Lube" would do with Smokless, but it might do just fine. I guess it depends on what the Lube actually is. They were $8.35/100, but the Milk Cartons can beat that.

Best of luck to you.
 
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Originally posted by vapodog:
I used to use them in my .44 mag years ago.....a fine way to move cast lead a bit faster without leading the barrel badly.....but get this:.....I forgot how I installed the gas checks!!!
I want to install gas checks for a .38 special.....can someone describe how the gas checks are crimped to the bullet?


First of all, you MUST use crimpable gaschecks like those made by Hornady, NOT those made by Lyman-the Lyman gaschecks won't crimp on.

You seat the bullet base section all the way down into the crimpable gascheck, then run them through the sizing die. This sizing also crimps the gascheck onto the bullet base.

For loading bullets that have no gascheck section into straight-sided cases, (such as the Lyman 457122HP in the .45/70) I put an inverted gascheck under the bullet.

If you use a Hornady Crimp-On gascheck, it MUST be crimped on as the sidewalls of the gascheck stick out beyond the finished diameter of the bullet until it is crimped. But these Hornady gaschecks STAY ON THE BULLET! It is the Lyman type that sometimes fall off in flight!


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Originally posted by vapodog:
I used to use them in my .44 mag years ago.....a fine way to move cast lead a bit faster without leading the barrel badly.....but get this:.....I forgot how I installed the gas checks!!!
I want to install gas checks for a .38 special.....can someone describe how the gas checks are crimped to the bullet?


First of all, you MUST use crimpable gaschecks like those made by Hornady, NOT those made by Lyman-the Lyman gaschecks won't crimp on.

You seat the bullet base section all the way down into the crimpable gascheck, then run them through the sizing die. This sizing also crimps the gascheck onto the bullet base.

For loading bullets that have no gascheck section into straight-sided cases, (such as the Lyman 457122HP in the .45/70) I put an inverted gascheck under the bullet.

If you use a Hornady Crimp-On gascheck, it MUST be crimped on as the sidewalls of the gascheck stick out beyond the finished diameter of the bullet until it is crimped. But these Hornady gaschecks STAY ON THE BULLET! It is the Lyman type that sometimes fall off in flight!


I think this is a winner.....As I recall this is what I did.....run them thru the sizing die!


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